Service Station & Solar Panels

[bpsucks]

This is an update to remove the BP logo from the Service station and the solar panels (anywhere else?).

I made a scpack but It didnt work.

If these logos are anywhere else let me know.


There is only 1 good source for renewable engery.


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Contains:
major wind farm
wind farm
50s gas station
service station
hydro power plant
solar farm
solar panel (ontop of buildings)
bp truck

Anyone want to make a pack for it?

[sirgrim]

Those are pretty nice. There's also bp signs on a 50s gas station, the solar farm, the sheds of both wind factories and some pesky truck.

The pack didn't work for me, but I tried them out in the templates. The gas station looks good, but I couldn't find the one on the solar panels.

[Zach]

I make a motion that this thread be deleted and the OP be banned (for his choice of user names). :p


Seriously, though, I find this rather disrespectful. I mean, BP did partner with EA to bring us this game (http://bpsimcitysocieties.com), and also, for an energy company, BP is one of the better ones being the most eco-friendly and all.

What's your problem with BP? You work for Exxon-Mobil or something? :D

[King Faticus]

Everybody is upset because BP dumped waste into chicago's drinking water..
but as far as I can tell they actually had the permits to do it and publicly announced that though they had the right to they would no longer o_0

[Zach]

I hadn't heard about that, but if they had a permit, then I seriously doubt they dumped waste into Chicago's drinking water directly--more likely the sewage system. In other words, they are no more evil than anyone with a toilet in their bathroom. :p

[King Faticus]

also the great lakes (the 'drinking water' as they say) have been heavily polluted for YEARS o_0
my father got reading assignments in elementary school about how filthy it was... that must have been in the 50s :eek:

[Zach]

Okay, well, by your time-line, that was sixty years ago. How long are you going to hold a grudge? ;)

[Morpheus121073]

I agree there is no need to have disrespect, i mean c'mon you can use a normal name and name the mod simply a gasstation mod, and by the way why not add them as new gasstations then people can choose to use a BP station or a non BP station.

[Rnett]

Okay, well, by your time-line, that was sixty years ago. How long are you going to hold a grudge? ;)

To be a little more accurate on the subject, the outcry came this past July when it was uncovered they were seeking special permission to be allowed to dump mercury into Lake Michigan. Supposedly they been doing this for quiet some time, just out of sight from the public eye.

[Agamemnus]

To be a little more accurate on the subject, the outcry came this past July when it was uncovered they were seeking special permission to be allowed to dump mercury into Lake Michigan. Supposedly they been doing this for quiet some time, just out of sight from the public eye.

They got permission to dump more stuff, but then they "changed their mind" and kept the dumping levels the same.


By the way, to completely take out the BP logo from a structure, you need to change the portrait image and the card image (the 3D rendering), not just the textures.

[King Faticus]

wait I don't remember saying the 'incident' was 50 years ago :eek:

[bpsucks]

The Indiana Department of Environmental Management issued the permit allowing BP to increase its daily dumping of ammonia and silt into Lake Michigan by 2011 as part of a $3.8 billion expansion of its Whiting, Ind., refinery -- located several miles southeast of Chicago and just beyond the Illinois border.


Critics say that amounts to a reversal of decades-long efforts to reduce pollution levels.

The great lakes are the United States of Americas largest supply of fresh water.


Should we be happy that BP sponsored a game by EA (more like by TM)?

If the game was $20 I wouldnt care as much about their branding but they charged full price to force me to look at this nasty company logo for hours on end, no thank you.


Thanks sirgrim, I will work on finding the rest of the textures with bp's logo for removal.

I wasnt to worried about the portrate image, you dont see those as much as you see the building itself.

I thought about making them new buildings but eh, I just started.


http://www.protectthegreatlakes.org/in-the-news/great-lakes/bp-refinery-faces-firestorm-on-dumping-plans2
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/chi-bp_01aug01,0,1050679.story
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/07/bp_short_for_ba.php
http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2007/7/19/11408/1307


I live in Indiana, where all this stuff is happening, I will be directly affected by BP's actions (along with anyone else sharing the great lakes, alot of people).


I stand by my name, it wont change.

[King Faticus]

Freedom of speech
You'd be surprised what you could get away with saying on this forum
usually you will only have to deal with other members..
lol not that I think hating BP is a good reason to ban somebody :eek:

[Zach]

Should we be happy that BP sponsored a game by EA (more like by TM)?

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I live in Indiana, where all this stuff is happening, I will be directly affected by BP's actions (along with anyone else sharing the great lakes, alot of people).

If that's the case--and for the record, I did not dispute your claims about BP--then don't you do a disservice to yourself and the community you supposedly care about by buying a game sponsored by very company you oppose? It's a bit hypocritical. ;)

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And King Faticus, it's not polite to delete your posts (well, your last post immediately after my last post anyway) hours after the fact after I had gone thus making our friendly conversation read differently than it originally did. :(

[Azeem]

I still don't have the game yet, but I'd definitely find use for a mod like this. I don't want *any* in-game advertising.

[King Faticus]

And King Faticus, it's not polite to delete your posts (well, your last post immediately after my last post anyway) hours after the fact after I had gone thus making our friendly conversation read differently than it originally did. :(
I had removed my post before anybody had replied
there was probably a reason I did it, because, I usually don't delete my posts;)
not that I can remember it or what I said in the post o_0

either way I'm sorry if it caused any issues

[bpsucks]

If i knew it was sponsored by BP I wouldnt have purchased it at full price, if at all.



I've updated the package with the wind farm, 50s gas station, hydrop plant and the 'bp truck', im sure theres some others hiding, let me know and theyll be changed too.

[Zach]

If i knew it was sponsored by BP I wouldnt have purchased it at full price, if at all.
That's a fair statement I guess. :cool:


Okay, now that everyone has nicely and politely educated me about the true situation, forgive my interruption and carry on. :)

[ManagerJosh]

Can I get permission to repost this over at http://uoem.com/simcity/downloads :)?

[bpsucks]

You know it, just update it every now and again since im still working on it

[Kuplo]

I make a motion that this thread be deleted and the OP be banned (for his choice of user names). :p


Seriously, though, I find this rather disrespectful. I mean, BP did partner with EA to bring us this game (http://bpsimcitysocieties.com), and also, for an energy company, BP is one of the better ones being the most eco-friendly and all.

What's your problem with BP? You work for Exxon-Mobil or something? :D

Then their partnering should have reduced the price but it didn't. The game still sold for $49.95 in my area and branded with the BP logo on so many buildings. That's disrespectful if you ask me. In game advertising would be fine in my opinion if it offered a reduced price of the game for the consumer but it didn't. Either TM/EA decided to just add a bit of realism by branding buildings with the BP logos or BP payed some money to get their logos into the game which should compensate by reducing the costs of the game for the consumer. While the OP's username is disrespectful to the BP corporation, just having the logo in the game and selling it at full price is disrespectful to the consumer, so it goes both ways here my friend, both ways.

However I agree with one of the users that said, why not make it a new version so that the player can choose either or both filling stations and windfarms with the logo or without. I turned the BP'd logoed 50's gas station into a texaco station but can't figure out yet how to get both into the game, so far I've only figured out how to replace the existing textures with my own reskinned textures. Maybe one day I'll make it as both.

Having more choices of buildings even if they are only devoid of the BP logo is a good thing, the more buildings the merrier so that the cities can look more diversified instead of each block of houses looking exactly like the other block of houses which gets extremely boring to look at, so more the merier I say.

[Jodet]

I make a motion that this thread be deleted and the OP be banned (for his choice of user names). :p


Seriously, though, I find this rather disrespectful. I mean, BP did partner with EA to bring us this game (http://bpsimcitysocieties.com), and also, for an energy company, BP is one of the better ones being the most eco-friendly and all.

What's your problem with BP? You work for Exxon-Mobil or something? :D

In game advertising is BULL****. If people do artwork to remove the BP ads from this game I might actually buy it. Otherwise, NO SALE.

[Tinkerbell]

<still laughing>

I cannot believe some of the visceral reactions over BP logos in the game. They are amazing.

Hey, whatever floats yer boat. ;)

Mod & enjoy or don't mod & enjoy. However, refusing to buy the game cuz they are present is really cracking me up.

<ducking>

[zero7]

What's really funny is if BP have actually paid to have thier logo in game when the service station is such an easy building to reskin - there'll be other real-world petrol/gas brands within weeks (amd they'll have their 'advertising' for free!).

[King Faticus]

well if you think about it that way it almost seems liek a punishment to ahve paid for it o_0
other companies get it for free lmao

[mountanddo]

If i knew it was sponsored by BP I wouldnt have purchased it at full price, if at all.



I've updated the package with the wind farm, 50s gas station, hydrop plant and the 'bp truck', im sure theres some others hiding, let me know and theyll be changed too.


Oh yes you would of or you wouldn't be playing it now in protest. And getting into it so much you started playing around with the files. Let's be honest here.

[bpsucks]

Like I said I would not have paid full price or paid anything at all, not like one has to pay money for video games nowendays.

I'd at least have waited to get it used for $30 or so then I wouldnt have such an issue.


Just because of the BP issue doesnt mean I wont play the game (or love doing so).

Glad to see I started such a hot topic over here on the TM forums.

I am working on a "Willie Nelson Gas Station" (same service station, diffrent colors) and maybe some more (better) alternative fuel sources.


Thanks for all the replys!


** no doubt that BP doesnt even really offer any of these alternative energy sources their trying to promote:
http://bpsimcitysocieties.com/about-alternative-energy/

They say they do Solar and have 2 wind farms in the Netherlands
They are interested in hydro (using coal) and natrual gass, neither one are renewable energy resources (doh).

This is a sham.

SimCities has never branded anything, its hard to find anything in english or with a "logo" of any sorts in ANY version of SimCity.
The rest of this game doesnt have any logos or any legible words.

[King Faticus]

it doesn't seem that TM cares that your modding BP out of the game lmao
I have seen several threads vanish since this was posted and if they did 'care' this thread would have been one of them o_0

[Rnett]

It was inevitable, people were talking about removing the logos well before the game was even released.

[King Faticus]

personally I neither love nor hate BP
but..
I remember being worried that I would one day have to sit through a series of periodic commercials to play most video games :mad:
(I am scared what will come of all this advertisement)
Somebody mentioned that the original idea behind paying for Cable tv was to avoid all the commercials on 'free' cable :rolleyes:
if they ruined that then Im sure they will ruin other things that you have to pay for :(
and people pay constantly for cable access whereas they pay ONCE for video games..

[thegrad]

personally I neither love nor hate BP
but..
I remember being worried that I would one day have to sit through a series of periodic commercials to play most video games :mad:
(I am scared what will come of all this advertisement)
Somebody mentioned that the original idea behind paying for Cable tv was to avoid all the commercials on 'free' cable :rolleyes:
if they ruined that then Im sure they will ruin other things that you have to pay for :(
and people pay constantly for cable access whereas they pay ONCE for video games..

The only way to keep advertisement out of video games is for people not to buy the games that have it in them. No sales, the advertising will stop.

[King Faticus]

well do people stop paying for cable despite their being commercials?
(keeping in mind that paid cable was originally commercial free)

[thegrad]

well do people stop paying for cable despite their being commercials?
(keeping in mind that paid cable was originally commercial free)


Premium channels are still free of advertising. I would pay more for a game that was advertising free if that was one way to keep it in check.

[johnstumbo]

This thread is really pushing the limits get a life guys.

[Corinthian]

Glad to see I started such a hot topic over here on the TM forums.


Actually, this (http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13995) is the thread that started this topic. Pretty good read if have a moment. :cool:

I waited to purchase the game until both 1) the price dropped to a level I felt was fair given the in-game advertising and 2) someone created a mod to get the advertising out.

Both conditions were met. I only paid USD30.00 for the game through Amazon, and bpsucks created the mod. Thank you very much for modding the BP logo out of the game, bpsucks.

[bpsucks]

No problem!

If i knew what you knew before I purchased SCS I would have done the same!

Your welcome for the mod! Im sure MANY people are buying SCS now because of this mod!

Can I get a cut of the profits EA?

[Khanon]

Don't hurt your arm there, Sport...

[Kuplo]

The only way to keep advertisement out of video games is for people not to buy the games that have it in them. No sales, the advertising will stop.

Well, somehow the publishers need to be notified that the reason people are not buying the game is because of the ingame advertising, else they might mistakenly just think that the particular genre of the game is a dying breed, and we all know that it's feast or famon for CB genre games, so we don't need any publishers thinking that their sales are bad because all the CB players have died and turned to dust and now it's time for only FPS and RPG's now do we.

[Khanon]

On top of that, it generally has the opposite effect on the purchase prices and in game adverts... The less they make from sales, the more they have to make up for it elsewhere. Games are so vastly and immensely far from cheap to make...