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Anguille
07-21-2004, 09:39 AM
Well, i wrote about that game last week and wasn't very fond of it. However, because of the reactions i got, i decided to give it another try (ehm...8 years after release) and found out that my memory wasn't so good :o (probably i was looking for something else at that time). Anyway, i am having a lot of fun with it now and would love to see a sequel made by Tilted Mill. The game is actually unique in it's genre and i think it still has a lot of potential.

The game:
Rise & Rule plays like Civilization but is limited to the Antics. That's my favorite part of history and i guess it's the same for most of us here. To me that's the big plus in that game. As it is limited in time, it is more detailled than the Civilization games. You can play as the Greeks, the Egyptians, the Babylonians, the Celts, the Chinese and the Indians.

Greatest features of the game:
- Research is performed by each city. You have 5 areas of research (Sage, general, medical, military and engineering) This is more realistic than in CIV, cos knowledge has never been spread at once. Furhtermore, you can manage research with sliders (most of the management is done with sliders)
So how will a new city get the latest knowledge then, will you ask? Now comes one great idea of the game, you can send a philosopher from town A to B. You can even tell him to do that all the time, so he'll help the new cities to be up to date.

- Building upgrades: along with research, buildings may be upgraded (3 levels). For example: barracks can be upgraded allowing you to produce better troops. When you look at the city view, you really get a feeling of achievement as the city looks better and better (unlike CIV where i never take a look at the city view :( )

- Terrain preferences: Units that have been produced at the sea will perform poorly on mountains. You have various types of terrain that have influence on your troops. So placing the right troops at the right place is very important.

- Map: You have the map from Europe to Asia and Africa. Unlike CIV, it feels more real. :cool:

- Cool movies when you finish new buildings or that new type of troops are available.

- Sliders, sliders and sliders :D

- Time frame: Antics. Favorite period.

Suggestions for a sequel:
Building up on these great features and adding:

- More Nations to play (and also more opponents)
- Deeper Diplomacy
- Having the options of starting at the original locations (Greek in Greece and so on).
- boarders
- Maybe a combat screen (something like in Caesar 2, Lords 2 or even better Lords of the realm 3)
So please tell me what you think. Anyone else think it would be a coold idea?

Anguille
07-22-2004, 01:56 AM
http://www.csoon.com/issue19/shots/i_rise2.jpg

That's the city view. You can well see the allocation for food production (blue), for science (yellow), for manufacturing (green) and for extraction of material (red).

Jayhawk
07-26-2004, 08:17 AM
I hop eyou don't mind me saying so, but that city looks kind of...well, bare.

Anguille
07-26-2004, 08:43 AM
I hop eyou don't mind me saying so, but that city looks kind of...well, bare.

At the end of the game you'll have built a complete city with walls and so on. All the buildings in that picture can still be upgrated, even the Temple.

Furthermore it should only be the base for a discussion: should Tilted Mill do a Grand Strategy Game in the style of Spartan or CIV3. As some team members have already worked on Rise & Rule, i thought that i would be a good base of comparision.

Azeem
07-26-2004, 01:07 PM
The "Lords of Magic" community is still hoping that the Tilted Mill team would be interested in doing a turn-based fantasy strategy game in the future. ;)

Gordon Farrell
07-26-2004, 10:50 PM
Wow, what a blast from the past! I loved Rise and Rule. It was a terrific game so you'd think it'd serve as a good basis for a remake or sequel. Thanks for posting that screenshot, Anguille. It brings back tons of memories of hours happily spent building massive empires in the ancient world. (PS, I think you mean "ancients," not "antics"!)

Anguille
03-20-2006, 09:53 AM
I started this thread sometime ago (2 years). Just want to see if people have more to say now...and maybe someone from TM has something to say? ;)

Thanks

imhotep3147
03-20-2006, 06:27 PM
First time I've seen this thread......But I wouldn't mind having another game to drool over. It seems like a good concept. :D

Celebithil Dae
03-21-2006, 09:35 PM
heh, yeah, a new TBS fantasy to replace my Lords of Magic :) Heh, i just put that on my laptop again... good times :D

Andrelvis
03-28-2006, 09:04 AM
I have played Rise and Rule recently, however, it's, hmm... too much like civilization, which is a game I dislike. The idea of technological area sliders however, is a great one, and could be used in future city-building games.

King Faticus
03-28-2006, 01:52 PM
I played a demo of this game that came with lord of the realms 2 and I remember I liked it butr I wanted to know what cultures other than egypt or greece could you play

Andrelvis
03-29-2006, 10:34 AM
You can play India, Greece, Mesopotamia, Egypt, China and Celts I think.

Pharaoh Pepy
04-17-2006, 07:21 PM
One good or bad thing about Rise and Rule was that you could automate play completely.

Nighteyes
06-08-2006, 07:23 AM
Do they have a demo on an official site at all?
I like the sound of this game and I want to know if I'll like it.

Hibernian
06-09-2006, 03:25 AM
Gamespot have a download option for a demo here

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/riseandruleofae/index.html