View Full Version : Gods like which good?
JuliaSet
10-31-2008, 05:45 PM
I'm on Ra, and he likes sculpture.
I had Bast once and that was for sandals.
What do the gods need for temple donations?
Beamup
10-31-2008, 05:46 PM
Perfume for Osiris.
Beamup
10-31-2008, 05:54 PM
I can reach Rasma and Bastnej - there's some henna there. And lots of oil in Amundep. Perfume's readily available on the market, though it costs 25 - same as cosmetics and jewelry, at the moment. No sculpture, though, even though there's plenty of bronze next door.
JuliaSet
10-31-2008, 05:55 PM
I think its cosmetics for Set.
King Faticus
10-31-2008, 05:56 PM
I can reach Rasma and Bastnej - there's some henna there. And lots of oil in Amundep. Perfume's readily available on the market, though it costs 25 - same as cosmetics and jewelry, at the moment.
I'm selling mine for 25
I am undercutting the 30s obviously but I still think it is too high lol
ohh well if it sells in an hour or two the price is right I guess...
Tinkerbell
10-31-2008, 06:02 PM
King, if it sells in an hour, then it is too cheap.
King Faticus
10-31-2008, 06:03 PM
I didn't just post it! lol
it might be 2 hours ago now
Beamup
10-31-2008, 06:03 PM
I'm selling mine for 25
I am undercutting the 30s obviously but I still think it is too high lol
ohh well if it sells in an hour or two the price is right I guess...
Huh? The post I was replying to vanished...
King Faticus
10-31-2008, 06:06 PM
well I removed it because I changed my mind about it o_0
I didn't realize you read it and were replying or I would have left it (and maybe grumbled lol)
Undefined
11-01-2008, 04:40 AM
Amun is a Jewelry fiend
JuliaSet
11-01-2008, 09:07 AM
Remember these details when you start making a deal. If another player has a certain god, and you make that god's favorite item, you have some bargaining power with that person, as eventually they will want to donate to their temple. You will be key in supplying them with that good and getting the blessing!
The blessing is increased production for TWO days.. that has included every product you make.
sakasiru
11-01-2008, 09:19 AM
Remember these details when you start making a deal. If another player has a certain god, and you make that god's favorite item, you have some bargaining power with that person, as eventually they will want to donate to their temple. You will be key in supplying them with that good and getting the blessing!
Isnīt everyone who asks for a ware in need of that ware somehow? I wouldnīt charge one extra because he needs it for a temple instead of a second city or building upgrade. I sell, he buys. I donīt care what he does with it. :p
btw:
Bast - Sandals
Amun - Jewelry
Osiris - Perfume
Ra - Sculptures (?)
Set - Cosmetics (?)
Iīm not sure about the last two, because I canīt find the posts where I read it.
JuliaSet
11-01-2008, 09:31 AM
Saks, the last two are right. (above in thread) Some of the newer players have not built a temple yet and have not discovered the goodies it provides. Hopefully we have added some data and incentive to make the brick investment to build it.
Tinkerbell
11-01-2008, 10:29 AM
Amun is a Jewelry fiend
Oh God, my very worst nightmare!
<TM hates me>
:D
sakasiru
11-01-2008, 10:37 AM
Oh God, my very worst nightmare!
<TM hates me>
:D
And this from someone who always plays CotN on hard ;)
Tinkerbell
11-01-2008, 10:54 AM
And this from someone who always plays CotN on hard ;)
Guilty as charged! :D
However, to be fair, who is the one yelling & screaming at TM to fix the Failed Flood Bug on Hard that gives me waaay too much food over Normal?
Tinkerbell ~ always consistent
NOTE: I called it what it is. A bug & not an exploit. Be happy I only call the Private Market an exploit. ;)
...and I DO believe there wuz a ":D" in that previous post
Undefined
11-01-2008, 11:19 AM
If you look at it another way, by the time temple blessings become a full time commitment jewlery will hopefully have crashed and it'll actually be a good situation.
Torgen
11-01-2008, 11:30 AM
just to confirm, your nome tells you who your God is, right? I'm thinking of founding my second city where it will have the same god as my first one, simplifying matters.
Beamup
11-01-2008, 11:31 AM
Is anybody in a nome with a resource used for that god? e.g. Henna production with a god wanting perfume or cosmetics (Osiris and Set, I guess). It looks like not from where I've checked - which would be a very wise design choice - but if anybody has a counterexample I'd be interested to know.
vic_4
11-01-2008, 11:40 AM
I am in Osirishem and parfume is needed while I produce kohl (cosmetics).
martincowly
11-03-2008, 01:07 AM
Is anybody in a nome with a resource used for that god? e.g. Henna production with a god wanting perfume or cosmetics (Osiris and Set, I guess). It looks like not from where I've checked - which would be a very wise design choice - but if anybody has a counterexample I'd be interested to know.
I was looking for just that today, I think I went 50 nomes up and down the Nile, and I didn't find a nome with a god that matched it's resource. I don't think TM would make it that easy.
Nighteyes
11-03-2008, 03:55 AM
just to confirm, your nome tells you who your God is, right? I'm thinking of founding my second city where it will have the same god as my first one, simplifying matters.
I would of tried (if possible and feasible) to get a different God so that each city can help support the others god requests. ie if you are in Set... with gold I would look for an Amun... with henna or Kohl. thus being able to support each only needing to buy 2 raw materials on the market. Far cheaper in many ways
Torgen
11-05-2008, 10:14 AM
We need to collate all the helpful info like this into a sticky thread, as an addendum to the primer (which could also give advice on things like upgrading temples, how to send scrolls, the whole boat/trade thing.)
Deguar
11-05-2008, 11:05 AM
We need to collate all the helpful info like this into a sticky thread, as an addendum to the primer (which could also give advice on things like upgrading temples, how to send scrolls, the whole boat/trade thing.)
Congratulations on volunteering good noble, I'm sure you will do a fine job :)
Deguakay
tomnobles
11-05-2008, 11:13 AM
...upgrading temples...
Temple can be upgraded?
vic_4
11-05-2008, 11:27 AM
To date it cannot.
Beamup
11-05-2008, 11:43 AM
It would, however, be interesting if upgrading your temple got you a bigger bonus when donating to the god. Right now it seems that the temple is the only building that can't be upgraded - why not give it a useful upgrade path?
Torgen
11-05-2008, 11:53 AM
my bad, upgrading palaces.
tomnobles
11-05-2008, 12:35 PM
It would, however, be interesting if upgrading your temple got you a bigger bonus when donating to the god. Right now it seems that the temple is the only building that can't be upgraded - why not give it a useful upgrade path?
Very possible it's already planed. We're only at Version 0.27. And it's possible limestone will be used for something other than monuments. We may be able to have a Karnak. Hard to say what the gods have in store. :)
Czech Centurian
11-05-2008, 12:42 PM
Very possible it's already planed. We're only at Version 0.27. And it's possible limestone will be used for something other than monuments. We may be able to have a Karnak. Hard to say what the gods have in store. :)
Maybe ressurecting a dead city could use up limestone.
Rama-Seph
11-06-2008, 03:55 PM
Looking over the map of the nomes (from the "Central Nome" thread) I noticed that Amun nomes are much fewer than other dieties'. Since Amun values Jewelry, this is another factor which should (eventually) increase the value of other luxury goods more than that of Jewelry, which many argue is overvalued in the early game. Once cites are regularly sacrificing to the gods, demand for different luxury goods should be a bit more level than it is at the moment, even in developed nomes.
BrazNomar
11-06-2008, 04:23 PM
I wonder, why Amun has less nomes? Does that have anything to do with actual history?
Caesar Clifford
11-06-2008, 07:29 PM
Are temples of any value to a cedar producer at all ?
I haven't seen anyone mention them except in this thread. I haven't thought about building one at all.
Pardon my ignorance but do you have to give 150 luxury goods a dau to the temple to get a 10% bonus ? Is that right ?
I am in Bast nome so that menas that I cna only give sandals right ? So I should start my second city in a Leather nome because my cedar is of no use to any god and at least leather woudl be of use to the one in my nome.
Broney
11-06-2008, 07:41 PM
The temples total all the donations throughout the Nome. Once there have been 150 donations _total_, the +10% applies to everybody that has a temple. This can be 15 people donating 10, this could be one guy donating 150, everybody gets the bonus.
Bonus lasts for 48 hours, I believe.
PhilL
11-06-2008, 07:41 PM
Are temples of any value to a cedar producer at all ?
I haven't seen anyone mention them except in this thread. I haven't thought about building one at all.
Pardon my ignorance but do you have to give 150 luxury goods a dau to the temple to get a 10% bonus ? Is that right ?
I am in Bast nome so that menas that I cna only give sandals right ? So I should start my second city in a Leather nome because my cedar is of no use to any god and at least leather woudl be of use to the one in my nome.
Temples provide a +10% production increase to all things in your city including cedar. All players in the temple group contribute into the same bank once the total of all players donations reach 150 the blessing begins lasting for 2 days.
having a resource to satisfy your God would be an asset. But there is alot of things to consider for your next city.
Caesar Clifford
11-06-2008, 08:10 PM
Thanks for replies.
Outside of this forum how many people know about this part of it though.
So does the god statue in your nome change once its got the 150 goods or are you told by a message on your city screen or what ?
And for those who have done this does everyone in your nome contribute or does it end up being one or two people blesing all the rest?
Nighteyes
11-06-2008, 08:26 PM
Hey Caesar Clifford
The god images don't appear to change so maybe this is something that could be added to the suggestion thread?? If you have a temple and therefore can receive the blessing you will see little green [!] next to the Raw Materials and Goods headings. Also you, in the temple screen and the workshops, have a little message that says you are getting 10% extra due to god blessing.
From my experience one person who settled their 2nd city on henna (we being a Set Nome) have donated a very large amount of Cosmetics, however there is another group who have donated various other amounts, ie 10 - 70. in some ways it just depends on who you have in your Nome as to whether they are contributing or leaving it for others. IT also may depend on the price people are selling your god good for.
Deguar
11-08-2008, 03:07 AM
Isnīt everyone who asks for a ware in need of that ware somehow? I wouldnīt charge one extra because he needs it for a temple instead of a second city or building upgrade. I sell, he buys. I donīt care what he does with it. :p
btw:
Bast - Sandals
Amun - Jewelry
Osiris - Perfume
Ra - Sculptures (?)
Set - Cosmetics (?)
Iīm not sure about the last two, because I canīt find the posts where I read it.
Just built my temple with a still level 4 palace no second city :( in any case I am on Ra and he likes Sculptures, which leaves Set on Cosmetics
Bast - Sandals
Amun - Jewelry
Osiris - Perfume
Ra - Sculptures
Set - Cosmetics
Deguakay
Follower of Ra
Leather and Sandal supplier supreme
Hetephinushr
Raka
Caesar Clifford
11-08-2008, 03:53 AM
So if you try and give the wrong good to your god is it rejected or is it taken and just vanishes into thin air ?
I mean how do you know in the game which good to give ?
Deguar
11-08-2008, 04:01 AM
Temple Screen.
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lynnk
11-08-2008, 09:47 AM
Are temples of any value to a cedar producer at all ?
I haven't seen anyone mention them except in this thread. I haven't thought about building one at all.
Pardon my ignorance but do you have to give 150 luxury goods a dau to the temple to get a 10% bonus ? Is that right ?
I am in Bast nome so that menas that I cna only give sandals right ? So I should start my second city in a Leather nome because my cedar is of no use to any god and at least leather woudl be of use to the one in my nome.
Looks like cedar misses out completely on temple donations actually - yet another imbalance in this game... but cedar will be needed for chariots eventually I guess... I did say in the other thread that cedar was only as profitable as it has been because everybody started at the same time - it won't be that good when the game is up and running as far as I can see - it would be nice if this was wrong - but it probably isn't...
gold and emeralds will always sell the most because of the palace upgrades - unless those numbers for palace/jewellery are reduced...
The earnings potential from temples is:
Leather will sell 300 each temple donation
Bronze will sell 300 each temple donation
Henna will sell 300 each temple donation
Kohl will sell 150 each temple donation
Oil will sell 150 each temple donation
*Gold will sell 150 each temple donation*
*Emeralds will sell 150 each temple donation*
*but the total temple donations available for emerald and gold is half the number available to other resources....*
PhilL
11-08-2008, 10:22 AM
actually your numbers are all halved but the ratio is still the same
Rama-Seph
11-08-2008, 11:26 AM
lynnk's numbers could be used for daily demand, since blessings last 2 days. One important factor to remember is that there are only half as many Amun nomes as the others (3 per cycle of 27 nomes, compared with 6 of each of the others). Jewelry consumption for blessings will be half that of the other luxuries.
lynnk
11-08-2008, 12:35 PM
actually your numbers are all halved but the ratio is still the same
Thanks for that:) - you are right:) - I will edit them now...:o
PhilL
11-08-2008, 12:51 PM
lynnk's numbers could be used for daily demand, since blessings last 2 days. One important factor to remember is that there are only half as many Amun nomes as the others (3 per cycle of 27 nomes, compared with 6 of each of the others). Jewelry consumption for blessings will be half that of the other luxuries.
hmm didnt notice that so there is more of a balance point against jewelry.
lynnk
11-08-2008, 02:12 PM
lynnk's numbers could be used for daily demand, since blessings last 2 days. One important factor to remember is that there are only half as many Amun nomes as the others (3 per cycle of 27 nomes, compared with 6 of each of the others). Jewelry consumption for blessings will be half that of the other luxuries.
hmm didnt notice that so there is more of a balance point against jewelry.
Thanks for the extra information:) - I'll edit the post again... then those figures just need to be added onto the other ones about the palace upgrade requirements to see the total possible advantage we know of so far for emerald and gold...
the palace upgrade figures in the unbalance thread are always guaranteed though - whereas these temple figures are very randomly added to individual sellers - because not everybody will be wanting to donate to temples regularly - whereas it is absolutely certain that people will always want to be upgrading their palaces...
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