Sabah planned downtime (3PM EST)

[Reed]

Planning to move Sabah off to a different server this afternoon (mid-afternoon EST) to help alleviate the load.

The downtime may be as little as a couple hours, depending on how quickly the DNS updates for you.

[abana]

Thanks for the heads up.

[Farmer]

Thanks for letting us know.

[Amun Nefer]

I just know you're looking forward to the rows and rows of servers you'll have to deal with in the future Reed. :rolleyes:

[ArmEagle]

Planning to move Sabah off to a different server this afternoon (mid-afternoon EST) to help alleviate the load.

The downtime may be as little as a couple hours, depending on how quickly the DNS updates for you.

Yay! Though, could you post the IP# of the new server once it's up? No need to keep the tech-savvy people from playing.

[balthazarr]

Planning to move Sabah off to a different server this afternoon (mid-afternoon EST) to help alleviate the load.

The downtime may be as little as a couple hours, depending on how quickly the DNS updates for you.Will time stop during the shutdown or will everything continue (or instantly play catch up) when the server is switched.

My main concern is goods in transit during the "down time" not being delivered. Late is ok (and understandable), poofing into nothingness would not be. :)

[Amun Nefer]

Why do you need that info Arm? :confused:

Yeah, I just sent out 5K sculptures and I'd really like them to arrive at their destination....

[Idle Rage]

Why do you need that info Arm? :confused:

Yeah, I just sent out 5K sculptures and I'd really like them to arrive at their destination....

DNS updates can take a while to trickle down (depending on how close your ISP is to DNS root servers). Some ISPs may only refresh DNS daily or may have a very intolerant negative cache TTL set up

So, I agree with ArmEagle's request... can we get the IP address once the server(s) have been migrated?

- Idle Rage

[Ivy]

Looks like the move just started.

[dreadmime]

Well Jesus Reed...

(laugh) Coulda used a 2 minute warning there.

:p

I knew it was "coming" to day... but you said Noon EST... it's Noon PST... some 4 hours later... I thought you'd already done it.

I was in the middle of re-allocating workers to fix a bread problem in one of my cities when "SABAH IS BEING MOVED"

lol

[Khabita]

Darn! Now what am I gonna do during this boring 3 to 5 pm meeting?

[Quernia]

Darn! Now what am I gonna do during this boring 3 to 5 pm meeting?

Play Theoris?

[Reed]

I knew it was "coming" to day... but you said Noon EST... it's Noon PST... some 4 hours later... I thought you'd already done it.
Noon?

[Cazy]

Thanks for the heads up.

What heads up? I went out for a few hours and when I return Sabah's on hold and I get to read the thread that tells me Sabah is going to be on hold. :eek:

[Golden Archer]

Cool, we needed that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dreadmime]

Noon?

well, you said "Mid afternoon" ...

however, by logic

Noon = 12:00 EST
Evening = 5:00PM EST
Therefore, Afternoon = 12:01 EST - 4:59 EST

Therefore, mid-afternoon = 2:28EST

Killing it at 4PM EST is 2 hours late! :p

I dunno. i'm just bored I guess.

[Catshepsut]

What heads up? I went out for a few hours and when I return Sabah's on hold and I get to read the thread that tells me Sabah is going to be on hold. :eek: At the log in page, there was a message saying Sabah was going to be unavailable in the afternoon. I don't know how early the message was there, but it was there around 11:00 am Eastern daylight savings time.

[Reed]

Should be back in business now, for most folks.

If the DNS hasn't propagated for you yet and you don't want to wait, you can manually point the domain to 174.133.176.66.

[Farmer]

How do I manually point the domain to 174.133.176.66?

[ArmEagle]

How do I manually point the domain to 174.133.176.66?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file

[Ivy]

Great, it works! I had to edit the hosts file but now I'm in.
Thank goodness the bread I had in transit made it safely to my capital!
Thanks Reed for the IP address and ArmEagle for suggesting it :)

[Cazy]

Arm, how should I edit my hosts file to access Sabah?

I tried:
174.133.176.66 http://www.playnileonline.com/
and
174.133.176.66 http://sabah.playnileonline.com/

I obviously didn't do it right cause it doesn't work.

[EmperorJaguar]

I totally just geeked out doing that.

Thanks for the link ArmEagle :)

[Deguar]

Arm, how should I edit my hosts file to access Sabah?

I tried:
174.133.176.66 http://www.playnileonline.com/
and
174.133.176.66 http://sabah.playnileonline.com/

I obviously didn't do it right cause it doesn't work.

lose the http ;)


174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com


Also if you are using something older than XP you will probably need to reboot to pick it up.

~Deg~

[Cazy]

Whew! Thanks Deg, it works now :). And thanks Arm for that link.

[abana]

I used copy/past and put "174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com" into the address window, entered it and get a search engine page. What am I doing wrong?

[Deguar]

I used copy/past and put "174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com" into the address window, entered it and get a search engine page. What am I doing wrong?

You need to edit it into your hosts file AKA Arm's link ;

[Agamemnus]

Great Success ! Apache is working on your cPanel® and WHM™ Server

:eek:

[Dracaina]

Hi Abana,

You have to change your hosts file.

Usually located here in Windows XP at least:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc

For other Operating systems, see ArmEagle's link at the bottom of page 1.

Change the:
127.0.0.1 localhost

to:
174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com

Save and close the file. Close/restart your Internet browser. Try the site again.

I also had to flush the DNS... (or a restart would work too):
- go to -> Start -> Run
- type cmd then hit Enter
- at the prompt type: ipconfig /flushdns then hit Enter.

That should do it.
:)

~~Dracaina

[dreadmime]

Easier version:

Google for something like Hostsman. (http://www.abelhadigital.com) It's far simpler, and a program I keep around in case I need to fix one of those creepy trojans that eat your hosts file that my friends seem to get (how people don't learn.. god only knows.)

Otherwise, go to C:\Windows\Systems32\Drivers\Etc and copy HOSTS (Right Click, select copy) then rename it to HOSTS.BAK (right click, select rename) ...

Then right click, and select "paste". Right click on the new HOSTS (which is just a copy of the old one) and click "open". I use OpenOffice (http://www.openoffice.org/) to edit my stuff. find the first open line (I use Spybot and Adblocker and these add sites to HOSTS. Odds are yours is blank.) and put in

174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com

click on save.

Close your browser. Re-open it.

Should work.

In some cases, you may need to reboot (Or go to Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Services > DNS Client and Start and Stop it.) ... but it /should/ Update the hosts to redirect for you.

But hostsman is probably going to be a simpler point and click (There's a big window that says "IP ADDRESS" and another that says "WEB ADDRESS" and you click "SAVE" and go. :p

If you don't trust someone else doing it.. i'd say do it yourself... or just wait. It usually doesn't take most ISP's more than 24-hours to trickle down new DNS information.

[Phnepet]

I don't have administrator access to hosts file on this machine. *sob*

[dreadmime]

As in, it's not your Machine.. or you can't access it because you're using Vista with UAC?

If so, there's a link/workaround to that on Hostsman. :p

[Dracaina]

Easier version:

Google for something like Hostsman. (http://www.abelhadigital.com) It's far simpler, and a program I keep around in case I need to fix one of those creepy trojans that eat your hosts file that my friends seem to get (how people don't learn.. god only knows.)

...

If you don't trust someone else doing it.. i'd say do it yourself... or just wait. It usually doesn't take most ISP's more than 24-hours to trickle down new DNS information.

Hostsman sounds like a much easier way... may look into it! Thanks Dreadmime!

As for waiting the 24 hours for your ISP to figure out the new DNS info... :eek: Talk about withdrawal!!!
:p

Oh and one thing I forgot to mention... change it back to your localhost when your ISP catches up.
:D

~~Dracaina

[grevolution]

Thanks dread! prospect of going without NO for 24hrs..... hideous!

[gerhardc]

Do we use the normal login page. I still get the message that sebah is being moved

[Ivy]

Gerhardc, yes we do but check out the posts above. You may need to edit your hosts file so it points to the right place. I had that message and had to manually edit.

[gerhardc]

I did change my hosts file and ran flushdns, even changed to "Obtain IP and Dns automaticaly. I also cleared temp files. Still no luck lol

[semislashcolon]

I downloaded hostman but that's no help. When will the server be up IN GENERAL?:mad:

[gerhardc]

The server is up. Its only that the various ISP's need to resolve and this can take up to 24hrs. I still have no luck so will try again in the morning lol

[Ivy]

Did you try rebooting?

[abana]

You tech wizards are all talking at a high-school level and I am still in Junior High.

[Sandra Linkletter]

I was logged in and playing just now, and it suddenly told me that Sabah was down for moving. This happened right in the middle of playing, while switching between cities. :confused:

Edit: And using the IP above, I get the Apache cPanel page. It says, among other things:


ATTENTION!
If you are seeing this page instead of the site you expected, please contact the administrator of the site involved. (Try sending an email to <webmaster@domain>.) Although this site is running cPanel, WebHost Manager, and Apache software it almost certainly has no other connection to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group. Please do not send mail about this site or its contents to cPanel Inc. or the Apache Group.

[iCat]

Thanks for the ip, I'm in. Just as my L22 palace upgrade completed too :)

[Sandra Linkletter]

Okay, it wasn't my imagination. I was once again logged in and playing happily, when I pushed a button and all I could get was "Sabah is being moved, try again later". The Apache server cPanel is back at that IP.

I think there's some wrinkles yet to be worked out. ;)

[iCat]

Okay, it wasn't my imagination. I was once again logged in and playing happily, when I pushed a button and all I could get was "Sabah is being moved, try again later". The Apache server cPanel is back at that IP.

I think there's some wrinkles yet to be worked out. ;)
You can't just tap the ip into the address bar in your browser. You'll need to add the ip and domain to your host file and go in through the usual login page.

[Hohxnatut]

I've changed my hosts file to contain the following entry (I'm on Win XP, btw - and sorry for the offence it may cause anyone):

174.133.176.66 www.playnileonline.com

Then, when I type 'www.playnileonline.com' into the browser, I go to the login screen.

All well and good. However ...

When I log in, I get the "Sabah is currently being moved. Please try again later" message.

Any ideas? Please!

I did notice that I had to sign in again at one point, so if I've somehow managed to put the wrong password in, am I being re-directed to an error message on the 'old' server?

It's been about 9 hours since I was last able to log in, and there is quite a bit of potential for things to turn to custard in that amount of time :-(

[MadPtahMcMad]

I've changed my hosts file to contain the following entry (I'm on Win XP, btw - and sorry for the offence it may cause anyone):

174.133.176.66 www.playnileonline.com



The line in the hosts file should be:

174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com

[Hohxnatut]

I'll try it at home, and see if a different ISP helps the prob. Otherwise I'll email you directly.

[Michlo]

Eh? Sabah has been up and stable as normal for me since I tried from work around 16:00 PT. You shouldn't still have to be making changes to get in.

Cheers.

[dreadmime]

Not all ISP's update their modem config hosts files at the same time, Michlo. Some poll only once a day during the refresh period usually around 2AM Local Time. Some poll several times throughout the day. Depending on how frequent that polling interval occurs, will notate how long it will be before your DNS is updated natively to display the proper re-direct.

Worse comes to worse, by 4pm PST Tomorrow, everyone should be updated with the latest re-direct. :p

[Amun Nefer]

Goddamned computer isn't allowing me to edit the hosts file! :mad:

[EmperorJaguar]

Goddamned computer isn't allowing me to edit the hosts file! :mad:

It is probably sent to 'read-only' - mine was. If you're using WinXP, just right click the file, go to properties and uncheck the 'read-only' box.

Do that, edit the file in notepad as has already been explained, save it (without a file extension, or just delete the file extension afterwards (assuming you've set Windows to display them), and hey presto...

Worked for me anyway :D


edit: actually, you probably meant that you don't have those access rights on that particular computer, i.e. you're at work or something. Oh well :)

[Caesar Clifford]

I still can't log in. Sorry trade partner i was supposed to be sending stuff to. Maybe IE7 is my problem.

No trouble with new world though

[Ramiz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_file

too much for me

[Ramiz]

I m very stupid about computers, can anyone help me pleae?:(

[angus]

I m very stupid about computers, can anyone help me pleae?:(
Me too! I don't understand a word of all the above. Can Tilted Mill tell us when we non-nerds can log in again as normal? If it takes a while sorry to my trade partners - I play as Hammamet in Sabah.

[tobing]

Just wait until all the DNS caches have been updated. Retry every hour or so, eventually you'll be able to log in. I had it this morning, could access from at home, but not from work. Now that's back to normal, too. Just a matter of time.

I would not fiddle with the hosts file in any case. While that may provide a work around, some anti-virus and anti-malware software prevents changes to the hosts file for good reasons. If you manage to change the hosts file and get things working, be sure to undo the change to the hosts file in a day or two!

[Ramiz]

Just wait until all the DNS caches have been updated. Retry every hour or so, eventually you'll be able to log in. I had it this morning, could access from at home, but not from work. Now that's back to normal, too. Just a matter of time.

I would not fiddle with the hosts file in any case. While that may provide a work around, some anti-virus and anti-malware software prevents changes to the hosts file for good reasons. If you manage to change the hosts file and get things working, be sure to undo the change to the hosts file in a day or two!

thx, best advice so far

[Timhotep]

Hi Abana,

You have to change your hosts file.

Usually located here in Windows XP at least:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc

For other Operating systems, see ArmEagle's link at the bottom of page 1.

Change the:
127.0.0.1 localhost

to:
174.133.176.66 sabah.playnileonline.com

Save and close the file. Close/restart your Internet browser. Try the site again.

I also had to flush the DNS... (or a restart would work too):
- go to -> Start -> Run
- type cmd then hit Enter
- at the prompt type: ipconfig /flushdns then hit Enter.

That should do it.
:)

~~Dracaina
I did this and was able to log in, thank you, Dracaina! Im using XP and Opera.

This is maybe the final blow for Sabah, I´m afraid. Many players don´t want to bother or can´t do this fix and will leave.:(

[Timothy Sarcus]

I did this and it still did not work. Any suggestions?

[ilf]

Did you try rebooting?

I didn't Ivy, but am at an internet caff and not in compleat control :(

[Sandra Linkletter]

You can't just tap the ip into the address bar in your browser. You'll need to add the ip and domain to your host file and go in through the usual login page.

Actually, you can type IP addresses into your browser. It is the same as if I had typed sabah.nileoneline.com in and my DNS had looked up the IP. Want proof? Type 66.102.1.103 into your browser. You will go to www.google.com, the same as if you had typed www.google.com.

However, even if that were not the case, it does not explain why I would be able to log in normally and play for five minutes, then suddenly be getting the "Sabah is moving" notice no matter what I did. Something is changing back and forth.

[tobing]

Maybe your browser's local cache gets things mixed up? Try to clear your browser cache, and make sure that pages are always checked for new content.

[Delinroo]

I have followed instructions for Dracaina and dreadmimes entries..read all 4 pages here in this thread of the forum. started and restarted dns client. Did Disk cleanup rebooted computer and IE...still getting the moving of sabah. did the start/run/cmd ipconfig /flushdns /registerdns /renew...still waiting since yesterday.
Any suggestions?

[Reed]

I don't recommend that anyone mess with their hosts file if you're not already familiar with it. It will just cause problems. And if the IP ever changes, then you'll need to update it again.

Just wait, your ISP will automatically update. Most should have already.

If you did edit your hosts file and it's not working...then you may need to reverse what you did.

[Quantum Reality]

http://174.133.176.66

Sheesh, someone should have figured out long before now that you can http:// to IP addresses just like you can for domain names instead of making tech noobies modify their hosts files.

[Delinroo]

Yes. I restored my hosts file from spyware blaster which i saved prior to even looking at the hosts file...I waited for things to kick in --my hosts automatic update.. and I now have sabah working. If a little nudging was used thanks for your help.

[cattleman]

im still getting the message of the move.and i am one whos not that savvy to changing stuff. not a computer geek.. and afraid my people on my monuments are gonna leave soon if i dont get in to give them FOOD!!!:eek:

[Son of Moose]

To my great relief, I managed to get into Sabah a little while ago. However, my joy has been short-lived as I now cannot get in again. This is really most upsetting as this enforced inactivity does indeed have implications .... :(

[tobing]

Hmm, works fine here... seems to be another ISP problem. :eek:

[Pontius Pilatus]

I came home, went in no problem, relief. Moved to the other world, did some things and tried to get back to Sabah. The moving message again. What is this, are they trying to pester us out? Keep this up and I quit all worlds.

[Son of Moose]

In desperation, I rebooted my system. This seemed to work. However, I sincerely hope that this somewhat desperate measure will not need to be repeated again every time I wish to enter Sabah .... :mad:

[dreadmime]

Rebooting probably flushed your DNS Cache, Moose.

You probably wont have any more problems.

I've already undone my hosts file change to go back to native DNS from the ISP, and it's working fine. *shrug* it's very rare to see an ISP that doesn't poll at least once a day... so odds are you'll all be able to play today. :p

[Son of Moose]

So far so good .... :)

I hope that everyone will now be able to play freely.