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David Beebe
11-16-2004, 12:58 PM
How do people start building the religious sector of their city?

Exectech
11-16-2004, 01:02 PM
A Shrine works fine for a small city untill you have a people complaing about not being able to worship the city's Patron god. It also give you a chance to get the materials needs to dedicated the Temple or Cult Temple.

David Beebe
11-16-2004, 01:06 PM
Ma'at first?
Ptah first?

Snowwolf
11-16-2004, 01:07 PM
I have found an undedicated temple helps right off, then I try for Shrines to Osiris, Hapi, Bast, and Anubis. These seem asked for the most by the majority of the citizens. Horus or Ra for Nobles when I can. Isis also seems popular but generally follows after the above.

ouch
11-16-2004, 01:08 PM
I don't buikld them anything till I get serious (very red) complaints about it.

and then I build them next to whatever group complains the most. :/

hope the patch is going well :)

David Beebe
11-16-2004, 01:14 PM
Course Sitearm9 has a very nice post already started about this very same subject!

http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4163&goto=nextnewest

Old Scratch
11-16-2004, 01:24 PM
This may be a bit weird, but in the last few maps I've played I started with a cult temple dedicated to the cities patron God very early on; before any shrines or anything. It encourages me to establish an appropriate amount of brickmakers right from the get-go, plus because of the CT's enormous size, it's easier to plan the city around, rather than trying to squeeze it in somewhere later.

Then once people start griping because they need more worship sites to other Gods, I'll usually establish a shrine to Hapi (since the whole economy is dependant on the flood, seems appropriate!), Hathor, Ra, and Isis (to keep the housewives content). Then I'll top it off with a regular temple to Osiris, since he's the main man and deserving of something better than a lowly shrine. ;)

Usually I just throw the shrines around near the center of my capital wherever they'll fit, and place the temple and cult temple on the outskirts of the city to keep things organized and save room.

FieryDove
11-16-2004, 01:41 PM
How do people start building the religious sector of their city?

If I can I build one undedicated temple right off the bat. Then follow the list and create dedicated temples to each God Osiris, Ra, Isis, Horus, plus Hathor and Hapi. Then a cult temple to the patron in addition to his/her dedicated temple on the other side of the settlement.

The rest can either get a shrine or undedicated temples. If I have tons of scribes, then a dedicated temple to Thoth as well.

Cheers,
FD

Enigmatic_Sphinx
11-16-2004, 01:42 PM
I've been building a shrine complex honoring up to ten gods. Fairly early on, and it seems to keep the people happy for quite a while. I later move on to a cult temple and if necessary regular temples - but only when I have the statues available to dedicate them. In most scenarios those are three separate city sections, each with their own attendant priest.

I generally add shrines to Osiris, Hapi and my cities patron god around the cult and regular temples.

GillB
11-16-2004, 01:44 PM
I start with shrines to Osiris and Ra and then a cult temple dedicated to the city's god. I slowly add shrines as people demand them. I don't think I've built a temple yet.

Keith
11-16-2004, 01:54 PM
Basically, I don't build temples unless it is a mission goal. Shrines seem to do the trick for me. I build them all, but usually start with Osiris, Ra, Hathor and Horus.

David Beebe
11-16-2004, 02:07 PM
Is it one priest to for the 10 shrine complex?

Grumpus
11-16-2004, 02:08 PM
My first religious building is always a cult temple. During the second flood I get 8 brickmakers going, and I find that these will give me enough bricks to get three priest's apartments, a hospital, school,and the cult temple finished before my folks start to really complain.

Next I will build four shrines, usually Osiris, Horus, Hathor and Isis. Usually, this is just about it for me. I try to get the cult temple dedicated to the city patron early on, and I find that, after that, my worship complaints are easily manageable. If I have military or work camps, I might add appropriate shrines for them.

Keith
11-16-2004, 02:14 PM
Is it one priest to for the 10 shrine complex?
A priest will only cover 4-6 shrines depending on distance from what I've seen. I don't add extra shrines until I have more than two priests. One for teaching, one for all services, and the third to tend the gods. Then one or two more preists to cover the other shrines.

mouse
11-16-2004, 02:57 PM
Shrines do the job for me and of course a cult temple once I can get a large statue :D Haven't built a single temple usually have 6 shrines for a priest to handle. Once I hit mid game where I have alot prestige add more shrines and more priest for all of the jobs. Osiris and Ra , Isis and Bast usually are my start up gods, with Horus,Anabais added on then the others on demand.

FieryDove
11-16-2004, 03:35 PM
Is it one priest to for the 10 shrine complex?

No, need 2 at least for just the shrines. With temples and cult temples they take even longer to walk all the way in, start services and walk out so need a few extra to cover the time difference there.

Enigmatic_Sphinx
11-16-2004, 03:40 PM
Is it one priest to for the 10 shrine complex?
So far I've been ok with one priest for the ten+ shrines. I make sure to set that complex up very close to the nobles, luxury and common shops.

Also, that's only worked in easy and (one) medium difficulty, not sure yet how that will effect my strategy on hard...

WalkLikeOne
11-16-2004, 03:58 PM
I actually usually start off with Isis, since she's typically the first one to be demanded, then Osiris, and then as needed. I actually don't build a shrine to Hapi or Anubis until usually much later, after I have at least one temple each to Osiris and Hathor, and a cult temple for the patron. My reasoning is that Hapi and Anubis (also Ma'at and a few others) are only in demand when bad stuff goes down, and if it's a couple of years between bad floods, the memory of not being able to worship Hapi has faded somewhat. So while my resources are limited, I can take the abuse when isolated events happen. In contrast Isis is always in demand, as are Amun and Horus and a few others.

As far as I can tell, festivals to Osiris are more common than festivals to Hathor, and other than those two I haven't encountered the need for temples for any of the other gods (except the patron of course).

Azeem
11-16-2004, 07:06 PM
I always start with Osiris and Hathor. They're always worshipped due to Peret and Shemu festivals. Then I build shrines to Ra, Horus, Ptah, and Isis in that order.

The way I build my "worship centers" is to have a massive central "Temple Complex" where the city grows around the "Temple Complex".

Celebithil Dae
11-16-2004, 10:24 PM
I ususally start outr with shrines, to the patron god, osiris, and Hathor. And from there, i may add on to whoever seems to be complained about hte most.

after that, anything goes once i get enough priests

vic_4
11-17-2004, 03:20 AM
A temple to Hapi is usually needed only when a bad flood or an excessively high inundation are predicted.

Maatkaamun
11-18-2004, 09:34 AM
I find that my cities want Bast, Ra, Osiris, and Hathor first, so I build shrines to them first. Then, they usually want Horus, Isis, Amun, and Ptah. Then Hapi (if the flood's variable), Thoth (if I have a lot of scribes), Set (if I have military), and Anubis (for deaths).

I build a shrine complex of 10-12 shrines, covered by apx 2 priests. Then, usually, a cult temple to my patron, then temples to Osiris and Hathor. By the end, I usually have 3-4 priests for the entire compled, and their houses are in amongst the religious buildings, with all other services also nearby (to maximize the amount of time they have to devote to serving in the temples/shrines).

Thain
11-18-2004, 10:54 AM
How do people start building the religious sector of their city?

I build from the inside out. The first structure I place is usually a Cult or regular temple. I pause, place them, outline their footprint with roads then delete them and unpause. I like the religious structure to be in the center (as much as the sceberio allows anyway) of the city. Depending on how many villagers the scenerio allows I plan for at least one Cult Temple and one or two regular temples. I may add more temples if I need to build smaller surrounding cities.

I use the Temples as the main device to satisfy overall religious needs. I use shrines to tweak those needs. I have finished the Easy compaign and am almost finished with the Moderate campaign and it is a rare occasion that I have five plus Shrines. Maybe that is the wrong way to go about it but I usually end scenerios with Perfect or near Perfect city satisfaction.

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G-Force
11-19-2004, 07:06 AM
I start with an undedicated temple and then a shrine to Osiris, patron god and Hapi.

Eventually I try to give something to everyone, especially the cult temple for the patron.

G-Force

imhotep3147
11-19-2004, 11:37 PM
I go with one priest for 3 shrines (Osiris, Hathor, and patron). Then I as soon as I can spare another priest I put up more shrines (Isis, Hapi, Amun, Ra, Bast, Ptah) I rededicate patron shrine to a lesser god (usually Anubis) then build a temple to patron (Horus in Nekhen.) I've seen no use for the ability to worship the other gods until I reach a scenario where the military is necessary or they are asked for. I build all these in a compact little group right off my noble neighborhood and provide the priests with a set of their own shops (both lux and common) as my healthcare and mortuary services are very near as well. By doing this I get away with only having two priests for 9 shrines and 1 temple. I get several grouchy people due too lack of a cult temple but so far it's been managable....in later scenarios I will probably go to 3 priests for 1 CT, 3 T (Osiris, Hathor, and ....someone), and shrines for the rest. Hopefully I won't need more priests!! :D

DaveNewman
11-20-2004, 09:53 PM
I usually start with a temple to Osiris and shrines to Ra, Horus, Hathor, Hapi and Isis. Add a Hospital, Apothecary and Mortuary and put in 2 priests to tend the whole lot. I also have my first prioest exclusively for the school so that I can get graduates asap.