Musings about the game and historical things I've learned

[David Beebe]

There's this funny thing that happens when you know that something is a homage to something more historical but you don't know the "source material"

(Like who knows where "Badges, we don't need no stinking Badges!" comes from originally?)

Or when you associate a cover song with the cover band instead of the original.


(Where are you going with this David?)

Well I can't actually talk about the substance of the issue yet (cursed be those that decide to string you all along and only feed you small bits of information over time...)

Rest assured, I learned something from researching the other day and was able to put a specific quote into a more complete historical context.

:D

[Thucydides]

A tantilising post David! The origins of expressions and words is a facinating topic. For example, I used to be impressed by people saying you can "scram" a nuclear reactor to shut it down quickly in an emergency. That was before a friend of mine who is a nuclear engineer explained to me that the word "scram" is actually an abreviation from the early days of nuclear power when a man used to stand on top of the reactor with an axe to cut ropes to drop graphite rods into the reactor core to stop the reaction in the case of an emergency. And so SCRAM stands for "safety control rod axe man"! I am sure there are loads of amusing latin expressions... smile

[David Beebe]

For example the ER term "stat" which has latin origins. (and is not part of the original discussion of this topic before I grounded myself from speaking on it...)

[sitearm]

Movie clip: http://www.darryl.com/badges/mov.php?mov=sierramadre.mov (http://www.darryl.com/badges/mov.php?mov=sierramadre.mov)

The quotation comes from the 1948 film The Treasure of the Sierra Madre with Humphrey Bogart. A Mexican bandit leader (Gold Hat, played by Alfonso Bedoya) tries to convince Fred C. Dobbs (played by Bogart) and company that they are the Federales.

Dobbs: "If you're the police, where are your badges?"
Gold Hat: "Badges!? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinking badges!!"

Stinking badges, Wikipedia

Venator Venatrix The game hunter

[Keith]

(Like who knows where "Badges, we don't need no stinking Badges!" comes from originally?)

That one was too easy. I guess it might be harder for those younger than I am.

Without using Wikpedia, who knows the origin of the phrase "Your name will be Mudd", as in "Do that, and your name is Mudd" or "Do that and your name will be Mudd?"

[Keith]

For example the ER term "stat" which has latin origins. (and is not part of the original discussion of this topic before I grounded myself from speaking on it...)

Stat is short for statim, which means right away, immediately, or at once.

[mouse]

David a very sneaky way of not telling us anything new about C4 :D *growl* It's not nice to tease gamers who are like little children and want to know everything now ;)

[Cartpusher]

Now, where did I hear, "We don't need no stinking Badgers"? That isn't a spelling error. I actually heard this as a punch line on a TV show.

[catgoddess83]

Doesthis refer to Dr. Mudd who treated John Wilkes Booth's broken leg after Booth had shot Lincoln? Wasn't he later imprisoned for being a conspirator?
Do I get a cookie? :D

Cat

[Keith]

Catgoddess wins the golden cookie! :)

Dr. Samuel Mudd was arrested and improsoned for treating John Wilkes Booth's injuries as he fled from Ford's Theater after shooting Abraham Lincoln.

I believe sometime within the last 10 years, he was finally issued a Presidential pardon.

[catgoddess83]

Believe it or not, I just read a novel about Dr Mudd being imprisoned in the Dry Tortugas (sp?) After I posted my guess, I looked him up and found out someone had used that phrase for a title condemning him. He WAS pardoned after Fort Jefferson's doctor died during a yellow fever epidemic and they let him out of his cell to tend the sick. He worked tirelessly to aid the patients; even getting sick himself but recovered. President Johnson pardoned him after all of the officers signed a petition from the fort testifying to his service.

But,..... what do you think the "Sly Fox" aka Mr. David is hinting at? :rolleyes:

Cat

[imhotep3147]

Maybe he learned where we get the saying "All roads lead to Rome" from. :D

[Geminus Portitor]

Personally, I always liked the story about the how sacred geese of Rome gave rise to our word money and monetary etc.

When the Celts under Brennus attempted to sack Rome they sneaked sucessfully past all the sentinels but the geese became alarmed and started honking, rousing the Romans in sufficient time to drive them off.

Gratefully, the Romans erected a Temple to Juno, whose sacred birds were geese, called Juno the Warner, or in Latin, Juno Moneta. In time, the Roman mint and vaults came to be placed at the temple and their produce came to be called money....

[If you are into bizarre postscripts, on the anniversary of the event, Romans carried the sacred geese in procession through the city and any watchdogs that should fall under the gaze of the geese was captured and crucified (yes, crucified) for having failed in their duty to protect the city.]

Just some trivia for fun.