Temples

[MAX-1]

Ok,

On the heals of the gods (http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7380&highlight=gods) thread, I have been looking at some ancient Roman archetecture, especially temples.

They came in several sizes and types.

Some were dedicated to gods, others dedicated to Caesars past.

Would be nice if temples came in several coices of styles and abilities for different typs of dedication.

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~rauhn/pantheon_model.jpghttp://www.leafpile.com/TravelLog/France/South/Temple.jpg
http://www2.siba.fi/~kkoskim/rooma/kuvat/369_004b.jpg
http://www.philomobile.com/images/TempleofHephaestus.jpg
http://www.cavazzi.com/roman-empire/tours/rome/pictures/forum-boarium-01.jpghttp://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/vestales/templeDsCour.jpg
http://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/ultor/marsultor1.jpghttp://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/concorde/templeConcorde7.jpg
http://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/iulius/templePerspective.jpghttp://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/venusEtRome/templeGlobal.jpg

[Baba Hotep]

you mean somwthing like Zeus, where each sanctuary to a god has a different style, name, size, etc...? If so, that would seem nice. But if you mean another thing, then please explain it to me.

[MAX-1]

MORE TEMPLES

http://harpy.uccs.edu/roman/tempherc.jpg
http://www.galenfrysinger.com/Photos/lebanon91.jpg
http://www.palazzolivia.it/img/tempiovesta.jpg

[MAX-1]

Yea, temples could have diiferent styles as per god, and sanctuaries too.

Vesta Temple was round in Rome, and so was Mars.
Some temples were more Greek in style and others were a building with a simple portico.

But also would like to be able to dedicate temples to Caesars of the past, ever since Augustus linked Halies Comet to Julius's death and assention to heaven, temples were often built to prominant Caesars.

[Baba Hotep]

Yea, temples could have diiferent styles as per god, and sanctuaries too.

Vesta Temple was round in Rome, and so was Mars.
Some temples were more Greek in style and others were a building with a simple portico.

But also would like to be able to dedicate temples to Caesars of the past, ever since Augustus linked Halies Comet to Julius's death and assention to heaven, temples were often built to prominant Caesars.

Caesars were considered gods in Rome, like in ancient Egypt pharaohs were? :confused:
Then i want a sanctuary to myself as Caesar!

[MarkDuffy]

Caesars were considered gods in Rome, like in ancient Egypt pharaohs were? :confused:
Then i want a sanctuary to myself!

LMAO. Doable, too! :D

[MAX-1]

Caesars were considered gods in Rome, like in ancient Egypt pharaohs were? :confused:
Then i want a sanctuary to myself as Caesar!
Deified Caesars were given their own temple. It was an important aspect to how the Romans connected their power to the gods.

Ppfft, go figure. Even back then they had issues with church and state.

[Azeem]

It's not an un-common thing. Many rulers in many of the major civilizations in the past have claimed either a divine heritage or divine right to rule. It's simply a manner of keeping all the peons under the thumb of the monarch while the monarch justifies his position (as well as attempt to turn attention away from his faults ;) ). :p

[King Faticus]

I thought the senate only deified an emperer after he died
or am I mistaken?

edit: well off to bed with me I've got class in the morning.....
wait it is 12:26 not 2:26..... oh well

[Keith]

I thought the senate only deified an emperer after he died
or am I mistaken?

edit: well off to bed with me I've got class in the morning.....
wait it is 12:26 not 2:26..... oh well

Caligula was made a god while he was still alive, for one example...

Claudius was worshipped as a god by the Britons....not quite the same but still another example.

[EmperorJay]

It all started when Octavian asked the Senate to deify Julius Caesar. That made Octavian the son of a god, which was a reason for the inhabitants of the eastern part of the Empire, to worship him. As Azeem said, it was not uncommon for rulers to portray themselves as divine and this was especially the case in the east. Octavian, actually, didn't want to be worshipped during his lifetime but did not opress the worshippers in the east. Octavian, in turn, was deified after he died when Tiberius asked the Senate to do so. Gradually, this changed to Emperors being made gods the moment they were officially made Emperor.

[MAX-1]

It all started when Octavian asked the Senate to deify Julius Caesar. That made Octavian the son of a god, which was a reason for the inhabitants of the eastern part of the Empire, to worship him. As Azeem said, it was not uncommon for rulers to portray themselves as divine and this was especially the case in the east. Octavian, actually, didn't want to be worshipped during his lifetime but did not opress the worshippers in the east. Octavian, in turn, was deified after he died when Tiberius asked the Senate to do so. Gradually, this changed to Emperors being made gods the moment they were officially made Emperor.
I thought it was Augustus that saw Halley's Comet and likened it Julius Caesar assending to become a god. Augustus's real father died when he was young and was adopted by Julius Caesar as his son. Thus, that comet and Julius Caesar would have mad Augustus the first son of god.

click picture for story>>> http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/images/comet.jpg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/images/comet.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pbs.org/empires/romans/voices/voices2.html&h=127&w=200&sz=6&tbnid=s-2nCoAzLn0J:&tbnh=62&tbnw=99&hl=en&start=2&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcomet%2Bover%2BRome%26svnum%3D10%26hl %3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3D G) <<<click picture for story

A good life and times of C. Julius Caesar Octavianus, AkA Octavian, later to be known as Imperator Caesar Augustus (http://www.roman-emperors.org/auggie.htm#53)

[wodinoneeye]

Yea, temples could have diiferent styles as per god, and sanctuaries too.

Vesta Temple was round in Rome, and so was Mars.
Some temples were more Greek in style and others were a building with a simple portico.

But also would like to be able to dedicate temples to Caesars of the past, ever since Augustus linked Halies Comet to Julius's death and assention to heaven, temples were often built to prominant Caesars.


Many of the early ones were made of wood and could be quite ancient.
Most of those were wiped out by various fires over the centuries to be replaced by more grandiose stone temples.

[wodinoneeye]

Caligula was made a god while he was still alive, for one example...

Claudius was worshipped as a god by the Britons....not quite the same but still another example.


Caligula declared himself a god (and could do very nasty things to people who didnt go along with it).

[King Faticus]

Every time I hear that name my skin crawls and I think of giant spider legs wiggling (:eek: uhg)

[wodinoneeye]

Every time I hear that name my skin crawls and I think of giant spider legs wiggling (:eek: uhg)


So you never saw "I Claudius"??? There is a whole nother reason for you skin to crawl.....

[King Faticus]

There is!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: please don't tell me.:(
(no I didn't see I Claudius)

[CaitGrey]

Max - those temple pictures are awesome!
It would be great to be able to choose types and styles when building temples.

[prof786]

max, what is the name of the biggest temple in your first post?

[MAX-1]

max, what is the name of the biggest temple in your first post?
Which one???

1,2,
3,
4,
5,6,
7,8,
9,10

[Keith]

max, what is the name of the biggest temple in your first post?

You can find more temple pictures and other 3d views of other Roman buildings in the Reconstruction Paintings (http://www.tiltedmill.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7637) thread in the C4 General Discussion board. I posted some of the same images here in that thread about a week or so ago.

The last temple at the very bottom right of Max's post is the Temple of Venus and Rome.
http://www.unicaen.fr/rome/virtuel/images/venusEtRome/templeGlobal.jpg

I'm not positive but I think that other large temple at the top with the large dome in the center of a walled and columned courtyard on either side of it is the Pantheon.
http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~rauhn/pantheon_model.jpg

[Fluvius]

I think ik would be wonderfull if you were able to ,partually, edit you temple. So when you want a large temple of venus you can edit it or you has just fill in a few numbers and the temple can be placed. I hope that gods will be roaming the streets in Cae4 so that bigger temples will mean bigger benefits from the god.
Maybe it would also be nice if you were able to build small shrines for lesser gods like Cupid, Victoria, The winds, dreams etc. (the romans worshipped practically everything like God of the doorsteps:) )
Another point, region- or religion based temple styles: an temple for Isis, a popullar cult in Rome, would be built with an Egyption flavour.

Let there be tons of Gods!
Janus Vesta, laren, manen and penaten etc

;) BTW I hope i've posted this in the right forum, this was the closest to religion in Cae4 I could find.

[Vodhin]

How about building with parts? Different roof styles, different plinths and pillars for bases and statuary, stackable 'building blocks' if you will. Re-colorable, too. This could be applied to other buildings, too, like markets, schools, forums, etc...

[wodinoneeye]

How about building with parts? Different roof styles, different plinths and pillars for bases and statuary, stackable 'building blocks' if you will. Re-colorable, too. This could be applied to other buildings, too, like markets, schools, forums, etc...


At least Columns as in dependant placeables (with self joining lintels/arches similar to the wall system in CotN) and maybe a better selection of small walls... Many Roman altars were outdoors which could allow a more free form 'precinct' area to contain the crowd expected at public ceremonies.