.Net crashes on startup

[Rumple]

Here is something interesting I found.

When starting caesar on my x64 x2 4400+ I get this message although by trying multiple times over and over I am able to get the game to launch.

Event Type: Error
Event Source: .NET Runtime
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1023
Date: 10/2/2006
Time: 9:54:43 PM
User: N/A
Computer: X64
Description:
.NET Runtime version 2.0.50727.42 - Fatal Execution Engine Error (7A05FC29) (80131506)

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

x64 isn't supported, but from other posts its a common problem.

On microsoft's forum's, here is something interesting
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/Sho...41748&SiteID=1

So, guess the question begs, how many people who are crashing on startup with a debig message are running dual core. I am going to boot into single core mode and see if it works.

[Rumple]

Update - I've booted into single core mode and I can pretty much start the game every second time (I started the game, exiting and then left it 30 sec and triedl oading again and I can get it every time...still no go in Dual core mode though.

I suspect that there is a timing issue around the unloading of the .Net environment thats exagerated by the X2 (even with the AMD patch).

I'm not a programmer, but the c4netreg they have called at startup sure seems like they know of the problem and tried to work around it by unregistering and re-registering the environment to force a reload, but obviously isn't working.

to boot in single core mode, edit your boot.ini (root of drive, unhide system files) file and copy multi line and place it underneath and add /numproc=1 to it. Here is my boot.ini file. Remember, complete at your own risk.

[boot loader]
timeout=10
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOW S
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windo ws XP Professional x64 Edition" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect /usepmtimer
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windo ws XP Professional x64 Edition Single Core" /fastdetect /numproc=1 /NoExecute=AlwaysOFF /usepmtimer

[damicatz]

Try running Caesar 4 under a 32-bit version of Windows.

[Rumple]

Very constructive..thanks.

If you could read, you'd see I acknowledge that x64 is not supported.

If you were not blind you'd also see that the crashing and .net errors are not exclusively an x64 problem.

As someone who's been working on systems, networks and servers for the last 10 years, I posted to offer a possible short term solution to a frustrating problem plaquing many people. If you don't like the advice ignore it, if you are not having the problem, mind your own business.

[Amenirdis]

Easy boys, no need for such hostilities.
Did you install the x2 fix from AMD? I'm running a x2 too, but won't have the game for another month yet. So I'm very curious if I'll run into this problem, too, though I had no trouble at all with the demo.

[vic_4]

Originally Posted by Amenirdis

Easy boys, no need for such hostilities.
Did you install the x2 fix from AMD? I'm running a x2 too, but won't have the game for another month yet. So I'm very curious if I'll run into this problem, too, though I had no trouble at all with the demo.

I am running on a AMD x2 processor but wit windows 32 and have no problems to date.

[Amenirdis]

Rumple, did you install the net2.0 version that came with the game or do you use another version?

I know, not every x2 processor has trouble with xp. I haven't had any in other games, either.

[damicatz]

Originally Posted by Rumple

Very constructive..thanks.

If you could read, you'd see I acknowledge that x64 is not supported.

If you were not blind you'd also see that the crashing and .net errors are not exclusively an x64 problem.

As someone who's been working on systems, networks and servers for the last 10 years, I posted to offer a possible short term solution to a frustrating problem plaquing many people. If you don't like the advice ignore it, if you are not having the problem, mind your own business.

As someone who has worked on systems for 10 years, you should know that the first thing any tech support person working for TM or Sierra will tell you is to try it on a 32-bit operating system.

[Will Jennings]

Originally Posted by Rumple

I'm not a programmer, but the c4netreg they have called at startup sure seems like they know of the problem and tried to work around it by unregistering and re-registering the environment to force a reload, but obviously isn't working.

The C4DotNetReg exe works around an unrelated problem in InstallShield, where the RegisterDLL.bat file would not always be run properly before the game was first launched on Win2K machines.

[Rumple]

I have the X2 fix from AMD
I originally used .net 2.0 from game install, but as part of troubleshooting I also installed x64 version of .net and modified the registerdll file to point ot he 64 bit version to see if that would help.

So far, only way I can get it running is to run in Single core mode. As damicatz already pointed out the obvious, it could be just a 64bit issue, but since I have'nt bothered to downgrade to 32bit to find out, it was easier to post and see if it helped others out. If it didn't, no harm no foul...if it did help someone, or identifed a global issue thats causing everyone problems, then Great...

[wtc310]

I get about 3 minutes before a crash, I have minimized the game settings to their lowest. I attached screen shots of the errors and some system info. Any help would be appreciated. I have downloaded the patch, no help. The freeze up is random and fatal as I can only power down to get out.

[mouse]

Instead of a bmp of DX diag please use the save feature from DX which will create a text file

[Keith]

Try reinstalling Netframework 2.0 again from the game autorun menu.

[wtc310]

I have reinstalled 3 times for the whole game and numerous times for the .net. Is there a Microsoft update I need ?

[Manni]

Originally Posted by wtc310

I have reinstalled 3 times for the whole game and numerous times for the .net. Is there a Microsoft update I need ?

Almost impossible to say by just looking at your dxdiag.

When was the last time you visited windows-update?

Have you tried this:

In some cases, this can be fixed by double-clicking the file "RegisterDLL.bat", located in the same folder as the executable

[wtc310]

It's automatic updates, 2 days ago last one done. I'll try that and let you know. If not, what other info would be helpfull ?

[mouse]

It could be a video driver issue you might try drivers dated for 2006 but not driver 6.9 nor 6.10 since both disable features on older video cards.

[wtc310]

yea, went down that road, updated and the new drivers turned off the TV tuner, so I guess it's TV or CIV...