unhappy equites

[DimmurWyrd]

Hmmm, my salary for these lazy bums is 30 there's only like 2% unemployment and they are screaming at me that the pay sucks and moving out??? (I'm not even in debt although I was once) this is shortly after they are excstatic about the pay rate... I am totally confused :/

[Vercingetorix]

What campaign and mission?

[DimmurWyrd]

hmmm, I forget the name it's a freebuild one. ardua or something?
they have everything else just that the pay satisfaction icon goes red and they get "angry" about it.

[xfredx]

Due to strange programming you will sometimes run out of money when paying salaries even though you maintain a positive amount in the bank. Try to keep at least 1000 denari in the bank when you start a city.

[DimmurWyrd]

ah! thanks I'll remember that lol... wish it would SAY that you didn't have enough to pay your workers so NYEAH! hehe

[Keith]

Equites get paid if they work or not. They worry about high unemployment and they also worry about getting paid, so if your treasury runs low they may become unhappy.

[MarkDuffy]

Welcome to our family, DimmurWyrd!

Originally Posted by DimmurWyrd

Hmmm, my salary for these lazy bums is 30 there's only like 2% unemployment and they are screaming at me that the pay sucks and moving out??? (I'm not even in debt although I was once) this is shortly after they are excstatic about the pay rate... I am totally confused :/

After time goes by, Equites want more services, especially Entertainment. They move out & lack of Entertainment prevents them from moving back in. Entertainment in your city controls the immigration rate. It is not due to their mad wages icon.

If you are low on money, you will see it as a mad at their salary when in actuality, you can't pay them or they are worried you can't pay them. Equites are very picky animals. You never need to raise anyone's salary in this game above the standard rate.

[Cartpusher]

Mark,

Does this mean that you have abandoned your standard two denari raise at the beginning of each scenario?

Anyone,

In C3, there was a scenario when Rome kept giving raises and we had to keep pace. Has anyone seen that in CIV?

[MarkDuffy]

Originally Posted by Cartpusher

Does this mean that you have abandoned your standard two denari raise at the beginning of each scenario?

Only did it in the Demo, cuz that is how I played C3. I also had to keep my Demo Labs comparable. Never changed wages in the full game yet, Cartpusher. No need!

I've heard that in the Empire Campaign, we get the standard wage rate changes, ala C3.

[SKaesar]

You know, I always played according to whats been explained in this thread... keep your bank above 1000 or so to keep paying workers. Then yesterday I was playing a level and raiders came before I was at all ready. They wanted $7000 and I had about $500 in the bank. I said screw it and paid them, putting myself at -6500. I actually ran the game in debt until I was removed from power after 2 or 3 years. What surprised me, is that none of my workers, equites or plebs, ever complained about pay for these couple years. I didnt know what to make of it, but they were always happy about their pay. I still lost because Rome doesnt like it when you are in debt, but my population never dropped and was always happy. Go figure.

[MarkDuffy]

Yup, yup, yup, SKaesar! C4 is all about Happiness, not wages.

OK, NEVER go into debt, either.

Or not meet demands

Or git yer military up to speed quickly

or...

[SKaesar]

In that map I built a heavy infantry fort and all needed buildings before unpausing the map but I got screwed real early. Youre right though, dont go into debt!

[Naufragus]

Originally Posted by Cartpusher

Mark,

Does this mean that you have abandoned your standard two denari raise at the beginning of each scenario?

Anyone,

In C3, there was a scenario when Rome kept giving raises and we had to keep pace. Has anyone seen that in CIV?

lol.... i actually never did that. I was paying plebs like 12 denarii and had a 9% sales tax. Just give them some vegetables and they are just fine.

[Vercingetorix]

Originally Posted by MarkDuffy

Only did it in the Demo, cuz that is how I played C3. I also had to keep my Demo Labs comparable. Never changed wages in the full game yet, Cartpusher. No need!

I've heard that in the Empire Campaign, we get the standard wage rate changes, ala C3.

I'm into Empire, 5th mission. Yes, there are many wage changes in Empire. I've ignored them without consequence. I even kick-up the taxes (Property-8%, Sales-7%). Oh...sure, they whine. Send to the Arena for the gladiators to use as live dummies.


Ya know...that's what Caesar IV is missing. Punishment. Sure, we Governors are punished, but not the populace. Now...give me an option to crucify a few Plebs or Equites. That'll shut them up right quick.

[MarkDuffy]

LOL !!! ~ Vercingetorix!

Thankx for the verification. Perhaps HARD will be a bit different, no?

I always hated to game the game in the Classic CBs. It's almost cheating what you can get away with under the correct circumstances.

[Pi-Xerxes]

Originally Posted by SKaesar

You know, I always played according to whats been explained in this thread... keep your bank above 1000 or so to keep paying workers. Then yesterday I was playing a level and raiders came before I was at all ready. They wanted $7000 and I had about $500 in the bank. I said screw it and paid them, putting myself at -6500. I actually ran the game in debt until I was removed from power after 2 or 3 years. What surprised me, is that none of my workers, equites or plebs, ever complained about pay for these couple years. I didnt know what to make of it, but they were always happy about their pay. I still lost because Rome doesnt like it when you are in debt, but my population never dropped and was always happy. Go figure.

Yes. I also spoke on that. When in debt, the game lets you pay zero wages set by your labor advisor to get out of debt and they will not be angry. But once you are back nto the black, then they will be angry about being zero wages.

You can routinely pay your plebs atleast pretty bad wages as long as your entertainment and maybe food level variety and such is high. The game is quit forgiving compared to C3.

Other posters here said so much. I just agree too.

[xfredx]

Originally Posted by Pi-Xerxes

The game is quite forgiving compared to C3.

I think you mean broken.

[Unmasked]

Originally Posted by MarkDuffy

I've heard that in the Empire Campaign, we get the standard wage rate changes, ala C3.

Basically the only wage changes that I've seen in the Empire campaign are that pleb wages can be either 17, 20 or 23. If wages go down you automatically match it while if wages go up you don't change. Or is it the other way around?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure I played C3 but it was a long time ago so is this the way C3 played? I always match Rome but if there is no need to make the change then I don't understand the reason for this mechanic.