SUG to solve jewels crisis

[arcan]

As this situation is a one-time one as everyone started at the same time, wouldn't it be ok to cheat a little ? How about TM creating a bot keeping a constant amount of jewelry to sell at an appropriate price until the market regulates itself ?

[Tasharil]

If I am upgrading my palace why can't I use the local luxury? Why do I need to import jewelry from halfway across the world when I have some of the finest leather and sandals in the ancient world? If palace upgrades used the local luxury goods then this would not be an issue.

[aramann]

I disagree... I think the lux goods and where they are needed is fine. I think as soon as people start opening things up everything will work quite smoothly.
If I have to, I can always buy emeralds and gold and make my own jewelery. Might take longer and be more expensive and I might be behind people in rankings but over the long run if that's what I have to do to get my upgrades then I'll do it.
I'd like to see some strategy left in this.

[Reed]

So... jewelry bailout?

[Czech Centurian]

Some Jewelry liquidity is needed.

[Tasharil]

I am currently upgrading my market to level 5, at the cost of several hundred bricks, so I can even see emeralds. From the rumors I hear, I will need a major subsidy program to be able to afford emerelds, assuming there are any available for sale.

[sakasiru]

Right now there are very few emerald cities, and those that are seem to sit on their emeralds. Gold is flowing fine and isn´t much more expensive than other wares.
I don´t know if this is some kind of market manipulation or just a coincidence, but right now it´s frustrating for many of us.

If you want to help that situation is up to you, Reed. I think letting emeralds drip on the market like now would give some a head start and help that not everyone is at the same level. Letting them flow would give most people a chance to experiment with more workers, helping to speed up the whole market maturing thing.

Maybe you should consider bailing out all wares evenly, so emerald dealers wouldn´t sit on their hoardes forever. Cedar is needed, too, f.e.

[Hieronymus]

The only problem I can see is a lack of competition. The market will sort itself out in time surely. Like aramann I would like to see some strategy left in the game. If it's made too easy, I don't see the point playing.

And yes, I'm one of the lucky ones who has oil. Currently selling (or not, more like) at 5 per.

[aeval99]

Originally Posted by Reed

So... jewelry bailout?

Exactly! And as our "chief c[r]ook and bottle washer" don't forget to slip in a few deals for yourself and your best buddies in the process.

But yeah, I've upgraded my market three times now and I've yet to see a single emerald for sale. I can only imagine what the price will be when they do finally arrive.

[tomnobles]

I have emeralds. I am trading emeralds. With 23 workers, I can't keep up with the demand.

BUT, they are not listed on the market.

My name is TomNobles
My city is Isna
My nome is Bastnedj

I am building ships as soon as I find cedar. Have one and one in dry dock now.

{EDIT:} Forgot to add: I don't have to worry about bread.

[Tinkerbell]

How many days did it take for patience to disappear? Everyone is always in such a rush.

When did the race begin?

[tomnobles]

I don't it's been found yet! Patience that is. I'm pretty sure its hit the deck a runnin'.

[Beamup]

Originally Posted by Tasharil

If I am upgrading my palace why can't I use the local luxury? Why do I need to import jewelry from halfway across the world when I have some of the finest leather and sandals in the ancient world? If palace upgrades used the local luxury goods then this would not be an issue.

I said this in the Bugs and Issues forum version of the thread, but might as well repeat here. Using the local luxury is a bad idea, since it would only reduce the incentive to trade, exacerbating the fundamental problem. It would work rather better to randomize it, so that it needs a random luxury good not using the local resource. That would help level out the demand for different goods.

[Czech Centurian]

Originally Posted by Beamup

I said this in the Bugs and Issues forum version of the thread, but might as well repeat here. Using the local luxury is a bad idea, since it would only reduce the incentive to trade, exacerbating the fundamental problem. It would work rather better to randomize it, so that it needs a random luxury good not using the local resource. That would help level out the demand for different goods.

I like that idea.

[sakasiru]

It would take some stress from the situation, but I bet soon people would complain why others need to buy only one ware (like bronze for sculptures) and they have to buy both or a finished luxware.

You can´t even out everything. Life isn´t fair and random isn´t either.

[Jaguar]

And in the end, everyone is going to want all the luxury goods to found more cities. It will even out, right now we're just seeing a lot of people wanting gold/emeralds/jewelry. I'm on the lookout for the items needed for another city, but only have a little bit of bread to work with as we just started. Things will get better. I honestly don't have an issue with the requirement for jewelry to upgrade. Does it suck when everyone starts at the same time? Definitely, but so does trying to get the materials to start another city at this point.

[Hieronymus]

Originally Posted by Tinkerbell

How many days did it take for patience to disappear? Everyone is always in such a rush.

When did the race begin?

As my daughter is so fond of quoting at me: "Patience is a virtue, find it where you can. Seldom in a woman, never in a man"

I'm in for the long game. I have oil. My pointy-eared friend aramann has henna. You Have Been Warned

[OhhJim]

Originally Posted by Reed

So... jewelry bailout?

My city is too big to allow it to fail. Not only do I need jewelry, I would like massive amounts of sandals, cosmetics, and slaves. It's the right thing to do for Egypt.

[Tinkerbell]

It's always sumptin, the the usual result is a game becomes too easy...

Sip the wine

[thegrad]

Originally Posted by tomnobles

I have emeralds. I am trading emeralds. With 23 workers, I can't keep up with the demand.

BUT, they are not listed on the market.

My name is TomNobles
My city is Isna
My nome is Bastnedj

I am building ships as soon as I find cedar. Have one and one in dry dock now.

{EDIT:} Forgot to add: I don't have to worry about bread.

But, you can't trade without a ship. So where is the cedar?