What about building materials?

[vic_4]

I am wondering which wil be building materials, in COTN bricks are used for almost everything, besides pyramids and statues, in a roman game I expect for sure marble, but for common buildings? wood? bricks? concrete or stones?

p.s. I am in the wrong section, I wanted to post on the general forum for C4

[peimope]

Originally Posted by vic_4

I am wondering which wil be building materials, in COTN bricks are used for almost everything, besides pyramids and statues, in a roman game I expect for sure marble, but for common buildings? wood? bricks? concrete or stones?

ALUMINUM SIDING...... for sure.

[dreamsoftwilight]

Plaster, blood and sweat... the last two being free.

[Keith]

The Romans invented concrete. Without it they would not have been able to build most of those wonderous buildings or the aquaducts.

Perhaps well see a concrete industry and volcanic sand mining, one of the main ingredients of the Roman concrete.

Other than that, they did use a lot of quarried stone.

[Christbowel]

Hi guys, in the same way, do we actually know if the builidings will be consctructable by any workers... // OR // ... will those buildings will be directly avalaible and set on the terrain...

I hope for the 1/ Solution ( not easy and VERY long to "do"... I know but this would be so cool !)

PS : I think the solution 2/ will unfortunately be the case.

What do you think guys !

[dreamsoftwilight]

Originally Posted by Christbowel

Hi guys, in the same way, do we actually know if the builidings will be consctructable by any workers... // OR // ... will those buildings will be directly avalaible and set on the terrain...

I hope for the 1/ Solution ( not easy and VERY long to "do"... I know but this would be so cool !)

PS : I think the solution 2/ will unfortunately be the case.

What do you think guys !

What are you basing that assumption on? Im assuming that its going to be similar to CotN in structure... what would be the sense in duplicating the old CB games when you have such a wonderful game engine that works so well? (ok so there are some flaws, but its better than the older games). ^_^

[MAX-1]

Naw,

The designers will probably follow a similar construction idea of buildings as they did in CoTN. Raise the building materials, place the footprint of the building and then it gets constructed.

[MarkDuffy]

I really do not know. Perhaps building construction was given up to do other stuff.

There is more military in C4. Trade will be HUGE.

[Christbowel]

Sorry gentlemens, perhaps I misunderstood my purpose... I was just asking, if C4 construction will be automatically, OR... workers will come and will construct the building step by step, with visible construction phasis, during a certain amount of time...

And as I've never played to CotN what was the principe of the construction ?

PS : Sorry, english is not my native language; actually Iam French

[Azeem]

Originally Posted by Keith

The Romans invented concrete. Without it they would not have been able to build most of those wonderous buildings or the aquaducts.

Perhaps well see a concrete industry and volcanic sand mining, one of the main ingredients of the Roman concrete.

Other than that, they did use a lot of quarried stone.

Considering the level of sophistication when it comes to the architecture, I'd imagine that the "construction industry" would be a bit more involved with craftsmen producing building materials and several "builder" professions handling the construction work (such as the way it was in CotN). It'd be nice if it was a bit more complex, though. Maybe with a wider variety of building materials would be needed. I liked the way CotN handled construction of buildings, but most buildings just required simple mudbricks and the work of a bricklayer, regardless of how big or extravagant the buildings were.

[MAX-1]

Originally Posted by Christbowel

Sorry gentlemens, perhaps I misunderstood my purpose... I was just asking, if C4 construction will be automatically, OR... workers will come and will construct the building step by step, with visible construction phasis, during a certain amount of time...

And as I've never played to CotN what was the principe of the construction ?

PS : Sorry, english is not my native language; actually Iam French

In CoTn, first you need to make bricks at a brickyard. A construction worker gathers these bricks and delivers them to the construction site. Each site/building has their own brick amounts needed. From 5 bricks to 250 bricks, depends on the building. Once all the needed bricks have arrived then the construction person starts to build the building. Yes, the evolution of the construction is in phases. Also, in CoTN, you are not limited to building by amount of bricks. Some games you can't place a building unless you have XX amount of a certain item(gold,$, etc.) In CoTn the only thing that limits the bulildin process is your production of bricks. But this is not to say that the building you are building is necessary, of productive, or managable due to other factors. You build it, they will come. But you gotta manage, cloth, feed, educate, nurse, provide, yadda, yadda.

[Christbowel]

MAX-1 Thank you very much for your answer ! Its clearer now !

However guys, do we have an answer for the building process in C4...
I mean : Immediat construction (like C3)
OR step by step / visible phasis of construction (like CotN aparently ehhe !)

Thanks again !

[vic_4]

I hope it is like COTN: it looks much more real and fulfilling, while it does not take too long.

[Thucydides]

Cement is a great addition! After all it was the Roman use of cement that led to all of those beautiful frills on building in the Forum... smile. And, of course, it gives a lovely role to Pompeii as the source of all that lovely volcanic ash so necessary for good building

[dreamsoftwilight]

Christbowel: I think this has been answered already. Its most likely going to be like CotN. If youre wanting the official answer, youll have to wait for a Dev to reply or for it to appear on the C4 site. But please stop asking the same question.

[prof786]

how would they maufacture concrete?
with crushed pebbles? sand? limestone? water perhaps?

and who would be able to use this commodity and how?
i guess that initial structures would be made up of coarse materials such as grass and mud. once the concrete industry is in place, only then would the product be available for finer buildings.

what????
a concrete maker would go out and gather enough raw materials to begin production. since this would be a popular product, one industry should be able to produce i don 't know 4-8 units each time. the product shall then be used by repairmen (engineer's post) and contractors. even to be used for exports. can be used w/ wood for better structures.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by prof786

how would they maufacture concrete?
with crushed pebbles? sand? limestone? water perhaps?

and who would be able to use this commodity and how?
i guess that initial structures would be made up of coarse materials such as grass and mud. once the concrete industry is in place, only then would the product be available for finer buildings.

what????
a concrete maker would go out and gather enough raw materials to begin production. since this would be a popular product, one industry should be able to produce i don 't know 4-8 units each time. the product shall then be used by repairmen (engineer's post) and contractors. even to be used for exports. can be used w/ wood for better structures.

Concrete was probably not a trade item, but rather something that the Romans kept to themselves to build their impressive cities and monuments with. So in the game it should only be used for construction of buildings, aquaducts, etc.

Concrete was mixed on the site in a mortar box with a special hoe, by adding aggragate, sand, and lime. The best sand called porzollana being from volcanic sites. Gathering the materials was probably a major endeavor and not something one man would do. Gravel and even certain types of pottery were used as part of the mix. Lime allowed their concret to dry underwater making it suitable for buiding docks and piers, etc. The mixed concrete was layered on to a form of the desired shape and allowed to dry. For domes like those in the Pantheon, weight saving measures were taken by molding in "panels" to make the dome walls thinner and lighter but retain their strength. In some cases pottery was inserted into the concrete to create airspaces and make the dome lighter. Less concrete was used at the top of the dome making it thinner and lighter than the supporting dome walls.