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Mr Ears
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Alarming stats

Postby Mr Ears » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:44 pm

About half a year ago, we had 47,211 ships sailing the Nile, 3,742,089 laborers working, 1,920 buildings upgrading and 7,347 market sales in Theoris.

Today:
Theoris: 29,608 ships sailing the Nile. 2,178,191 laborers working. 850 buildings upgrading. 2,959 market sales (past day).

Theoris is going down!

Pontius Pilatus
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And Sabah?

Postby Pontius Pilatus » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:03 pm

Is that the same trend at Sabah?

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But it ain't necessarily so.

Mr Ears
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Postby Mr Ears » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:19 pm

No, Sabah is surprisingly constant.

6 months ago:

between 27,000-28,000 ships sailing the Nile, between 3.3M and 3.5M laborers working. between 2,200 and 2,800 buildings upgrading. between 7,000 and 10,000 market sales per day.

Today:

Sabah: 27,035 ships sailing the Nile. 3,352,303 laborers working. 2,430 buildings upgrading. 7,602 market sales (past day).

abana
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Postby abana » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:02 pm

I think that some of the stats from Sabah are skewed. I think that the laborers in the inactive accounts are included.

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Postby Q-Man » Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:09 am

Yeah, and even ships could be docked but counted and market sales could really be market listings, but buildings being upgraded - it seems like a reasonable number and indication of at least minimalist activity. I think Sabah is just more established with the die hard fans from the beginning. Theoris was home to more newbies who tried and left.

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Postby Sayamistar » Fri Dec 24, 2010 3:17 am

And I thought Sabah is being doomed because of the dead traders abound...

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Postby Q-Man » Sat Dec 25, 2010 7:53 am

The world is doomed. Merry Christmas!

LOL - j/k

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Postby Mr Ears » Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:35 pm

...and declining ...and declining

the newest numbers are affirmative enough, the fall of Theoris goes on:


Theoris: 24,002 ships sailing the Nile. 2,087,399 laborers working. 755 buildings upgrading. 2,578 market sales (past day).


When thread was started, the numbers were
Theoris: 29,608 ships sailing the Nile. 2,178,191 laborers working. 850 buildings upgrading. 2,959 market sales (past day).

Even these numbers have been alarming enough!


Comparing the Sabah figures:

Today: 27,035 ships sailing the Nile. 3,352,303 laborers working. 2,430 buildings upgrading. 7,602 market sales (past day).


When thread was started:
"Mr Ears" wrote:Sabah: 27,035 ships sailing the Nile. 3,352,303 laborers working. 2,430 buildings upgrading. 7,602 market sales (past day).


Surprisingly, the Sabah figures remain on a stable level!

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Postby Q-Man » Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:41 pm

Actually, it looks like the Sabah figures are not being updated since you posted identical numbers for both reports.

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Postby Tinkerbell » Tue Jan 11, 2011 7:04 am

Sabah numbers on the logon page have been broken (stuck) for over a year. It happened along with the stoppage of weekly server sweeps in Sabah.

They are bogus

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Postby Ivy » Tue Jan 11, 2011 10:21 pm

Yes, it has been 27,035 ships for a long, LONG time!

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Postby thechris » Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:23 pm

...or maybe everyones consistent


seriously, what happens, for me anyway, i only stayed to do my goals because of the social aspect. i never played the game for the actual -game- part. and, that seems to be the trend. then more people leave because theres no one to talk to. and so on.

atleast that happened to me on sabath. i have no clue on theo.

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Dead end game

Postby Solmar » Fri May 13, 2011 2:44 pm

I think the drop has to do with the end game. I am probably not going to play again because after a nice productive game, the end game is dead. Suddenly you don't "need" anything and are just trying to find someplace to put stuff. That is not a very interesting game.

I think palaces should have a maintainence requirement. A large city with no need for ongoing pottery, baskets, bricks etc. of some amount? Come now. If the support cost for palaces started very low and went VERY high, the game would have a very different end game. The maintainence cost could be set high enough that a player couldn't maintain 4 level 22 palaces and would have to prioritize. Sounds like more fun than "where can I put this stuff?" doesn't it? It would require people to trade more at the end rather than less as the current game does.

Just one idiot's opinion. :)

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Postby PantherX » Sat May 14, 2011 5:38 am

That's actually a very good suggestion. I think it has been mentioned before. Perhaps TM will get some inspiration/money/whatever it takes to continue and...

;)
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Postby thechris » Sun May 15, 2011 10:29 pm

im honestly surprised they have the severs still running. but it would be neat for the game to turn around someday

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Postby Chiron » Sat May 21, 2011 3:50 pm

I am not sure that the moderators are doing their job. I've noticed quite a few players showing up in the top 100 with less than 50 years lifespan, weak monument builds, and less than 4 cities. Give me a break. Obviously they've done some thing like played two accounts at once and transferred resources

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Postby PantherX » Sat May 21, 2011 5:13 pm

Yeah I think it is actually quite common since it is not being enforced. I personally enjoy playing games so cheating is not really an option , even when it is easy to do and/or even built into the game mechanics.

The best thing to do if you want to compare your progress against others is to look at not only age but city configuration.

I am on my 4th time through in Theoris, I believe there are other "fair players" that are on trip 5 and I suppose it is possible to be on trip 6. One of my trips was to go immortal as fast as I could, I was lucky enough to not have received any gifting and I hardly ever had to wait for anything to start upgrades. Still was not even close to some of the times but I still had fun.

Like you, I have noticed a few players with really short lifetimes that didn't seem possible to get to without cheating or at least accepting many large gifts.

There are many threads that have discussed this issue, I'm not sure it's really a problem except it invalidates the ranking system. If you search for them you will see quite a few posts on this subject.
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Postby Sierra » Sat May 21, 2011 6:04 pm

"Chiron" wrote:I am not sure that the moderators are doing their job. I've noticed quite a few players showing up in the top 100 with less than 50 years lifespan, weak monument builds, and less than 4 cities. Give me a break. Obviously they've done some thing like played two accounts at once and transferred resources


It is not unusual to get into the Top 100 in Theoris within 50 years of playing (actually it is not so difficult). 50 years of playing can definitely get you a rank between 30 and 100 or even higher and that without receiving gifts or cheating. I do not see a problem. I am also in the Top 100 and have played for less than 50 years. A lot depends on how intense a player plays and how he/she plays.

Suggest that you check the Top 100 in Theoris and make a list of the names of the players that have played less than 50 years. Are there so many? And how many of the Top 100 only have 3 cities? You can send me the list when you have completed it.

There are, without a doubt, players playing with multiple accounts. I don't approve of that but if they are happy doing so then they know at immortality that they have cheated. Is their satisfaction level as high as someone's that hasn't cheated or hasn't received a lot of gifts? I doubt it.

The planet is full of cheaters !!!

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Postby Tinkerbell » Sun May 22, 2011 7:27 am

Top 100 in Theoris with both less than 50 ages AND only 3 cities?

Where? I don't see any.

And top 100 in less than 50 years is easy peasy if you have prior Nile Immortality/Quad 22 experience.

I am around 80 and 49 years doing the no bought scarabs challenge for the very first time (account #6, 3 top 10 immortals in Sabah & 2 top 10s in Theoris), currently doing Theoris III. If I had bought scarabs, I would be where I am at 35!
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Postby Saa » Sat Jul 02, 2011 11:19 am

I've been through to the top in Theoris twice. Immortal at ages 58 and 56. I had a few small gifts at the begining. It is perfectly possible to do this without cheating!!

On the thread subject:
The Sabah figures seem not to ever change!
The Theoris figures seem fair and are declining with the number of players.
The problem is that new players may go for the one that appears more popular and end up in a Sabah dead end.
This needs to be changed!! Unless those in control are trying to kill the game.


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