The possibilities for new city builder games

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List of Ancient and Medieval city building games

Postby alincarpetman » Thu May 17, 2012 10:26 pm

Hello,

Here is a list of ancient and medieval city building games for anyone interested in exploring the ancient city building genre more. The list starts with the original ancient city building series by Impressions Games and Tilted Mill, followed by links to the latest 2d and mobile versions as well as other related game series, and includes independent games in various stages of completion.

There is still much potential in the ancient city building genre, for example here is a list of historical ancient city building civilizations for which games haven't been made yet. There have mostly been many Roman, Egyptian, Greek and European themed games. If anyone is familiar with other languages then maybe you can search for games in other countries and contact any developers that may be interested in working on their own version of an ancient city building game and release localized language packs.

I also posted a similar thread here in Simtropolis about modern city builder games. As you can see, it seems there have been more attempts at independent projects for modern city builder games than ancient city builder games. I figure there is a cross-over between these games in terms of history, development and interest so if anyone has any ideas for new ancient city builder games as well any relevant entries and links, please post them here or message me and I will add them. Lastly there is a section for links to forums and discussions.

Ancient and Medieval city building games:
Caesar 2 (1994)
Caesar 3 (1998)
Knights and Merchants (1998)
Pharoah (1999)
Cleopatra expansion (2000)
Zeus (2000)
Poseidon expansion (2001)
Emperor (2002)
Children of the Nile (2004)
Alexandria expansion (2008)
Medieval Lords: Build, Defend, Expand (2004)
Caesar 4 (2006)
Glory of the Roman Empire (2006)
Arabian Lords (2007)
Imperium Romanum (2008)
Grand Ages: Rome (2008)
Grand Ages: Medieval (?)
Villages and Cities (?)

Various new 2d, flash, browser, mmo, social and mobile versions here
Various new mmo browser versions here

Independent projects:
Widelands (2002)
Unknown Horizons (2008)
CaesarIA (aka Open Caesar 3) (In progress/?)

Other related city builder and economic game series:
Anno series
Patrician series
Settlers series
Alien Nations series
Cultures series
Port Royale series
Tropico series
SimCity series
Various new/mobile 2d versions
Various merchant and trade-oriented games

Related game and mod links:
Heavengames Forums
Sierra Chest
Tilted Mill Forums
Anno Fans
Settlers Forum
Stronghold Forums
Patrician, Tropico and Port Royale Forums
Simtropolis Forums
SimCity Societies Forum at Tilted Mill
City Builder Games Forum
Game Mod Database
Indie Game Database
City Building Games at Wikia
City Building Games at Wikipedia
Chronology of City Building Games at Wikipedia
Mobygames Videogame Database and Forum

Related Projects:
Caesar 3 Mod Squad (2008, ?) - incomplete, some ideas continued by others here and also discussed here.
Ymir Online (2011, ?) - in progress

Discussions:
Compatibility of future TM CBs by Son of Moose (8-23-2004, Tilted Mill forum)
Caesar 3 Mod Squad by Crashe (6-17-2009, Tilted Mill forum)
Is Tilted Mill working on anything new? by gamester (6-6-2011, Tilted Mill forum)
Legality of making a game clone by cyberfish (11-13-2011, Cprogramming forum)
Making your own city builder game by DenSomKastade (11-20-2011, City Builder Games forum)
Caesar 3 Mod Squad new phase of project by RandomEd and gaddas (1-15-2012, Caesar 3 Mod Squad forum)
The possibilities for new 2d city builder games by alincarpetman (1-19-2012, Heavengames forum)
A list of original and new ancient city builder games by nuyokcity (4-25-2012, Simtropolis forum)
The possibilities for new city builder games by alincarpetman (5-17-2012, Tilted Mill forum)

List of related rts and city builder projects and discussions:
- 0 AD (2000, ?) - an ancient military rts game, sort of a Age of Empires 3d "remake" but better, is open for game testing and will have the option for custom modding.
- Glest (2004) - is a game engine for fantasy rts games.
- Zero-K (2010) - is an open source futuristic military rts game.

Related thread lists
These game lists have been cross posted on related gaming forums:
A list of ancient city builder games here, here, here
A list of modern city builder and global civilization builder games here
A list of fantasy and sci-fi rts and city builder games here, here, here

So some options for new city building games may be the following:
- port the classic 2d games onto new systems which will give the developers money for new projects
- mod the existing games in some ways such as the Open Caesar 3 project for something different
- try to get the original 2d game info to make new games in a similar style independently using the old versions
- create new games independently from scratch which will take time if funds and talent is limited, but is certainly possible
- it's up to gamers to post on various forums, social networks, and game mod websites to generate interest and potential collaborations
- ideally an open source version of a city building game can be made where anyone can go in and mod it to add any historical time periods and civilizations or completely new settings, including ancient, medieval, pre-industrial, modern, post-industrial, alternate history, fantasy, scfi, alien, custom, any specific historical time/culture/location, etc.
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Postby Keith » Thu May 17, 2012 11:03 pm

There are several old threads here covering the same subject, although none of them have ben active here for some time. It usually becomes a topic for discussion when a "new game" has been announced but no details have been provided yet.

By now just about every culture on earth and off-earth has been suggested as a possible new "citybuider". I think the well on fresh cultures to model is running dry by now.

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Postby alincarpetman » Fri May 18, 2012 12:08 am

Hi Keith,

Yeah I actually read through most of the threads doing some research for ideas for new city builder games and noted down what people have mentioned as suggestions for the next new games to be made.

Here's some lists which are probably incomplete but are a fun read with laughs along the way :D Maybe Tilted Mill can use these lists for research when making new games lol. :) It would be interesting if they could make a game where fans could create their own version inside the editor.

A short list of most suggested city builder games ideas from various threads at the Tilted Mill forum:

-includes any tally over 10
-listed highest to lowest
-this is a general estimate from the tilted mill forum only

greece 38
india 37
aztec 31
japan 30
rome 27
maya 25
medieval/middle ages general 21
china 19
inca 19
mesoamerica general 19
persia 18
babylon 18
pre-columbian south america general/south america general 18
wild west/gold rush/frontier 16
fantasy general 14
colonial america/new world 12
egypt 11
lord of the rings 11
mesopotamia general 10
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Postby alincarpetman » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:24 am

Updated the lists with the latest games and links - post or pm if you have any more :)

Villages and Cities, Caesaria and Grand Ages: Medieval seem to be the only ancient and medieval city builder games in progress at the moment.
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Postby tobing » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:50 am

"alincarpetman" wrote:Caesaria and Grand Ages: Medieval seem to be the only ancient city builder games in progress at the moment.


Add Villages and Cities to this, I'm going to make an update soon.

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Postby alincarpetman » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:17 am

"tobing" wrote:Add Villages and Cities to this, I'm going to make an update soon.


The game was on the list but I moved it up - I still don't have an exact way to organize these lists and will making something new soon - hopefully your project will get more interest either way :)

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Postby Haruka » Fri Jul 10, 2015 8:14 pm

Hearthlands

http://hearthlands.com/
http://store.steampowered.com/app/336300/

I played a little an early access version. It's gonna be good, I think. Looks nice.

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Re: The possibilities for new city builder games

Postby OhhJim » Thu Feb 09, 2017 9:47 pm

'Banished' is a really nice game. It's sandbox, which some gamers might not like, but I really like it.

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Re: The possibilities for new city builder games

Postby Stardog » Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:25 pm

There's a game called Ostriv coming out soon that seems interesting.

http://www.indiedb.com/games/ostriv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wonH7b0rsj0


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