E3: No citybuilders being shown

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E3: No citybuilders being shown

Postby Keith » Fri Jun 18, 2010 5:57 am

Sad days ahead.

TM is not listed among the exhibitors at this years E3 Expo now running in Los Angeles.

There are no citybuilder games in the works anywhere it seems. There are plenty of first person shooters and a few types of games in other genres, but none of those appeal to me.


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Postby Simtopia23 » Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:50 am

TM is now the time for make a very good city-builder game and have a success!

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Postby Tinkerbell » Fri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 pm

Blizzard sez they are not at E3 with Diablo III.

E3 is not big enough for Diablo III



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Postby Innovan » Tue Jun 22, 2010 7:30 pm

There's interesting arguments about the traditional single purchase pre-packaged software title vs buying incremental upgrades to an on-line game, which gives developers a longer length revenue stream and lets users buy cafeteria-style as many or as few expansions and add-ons as they like. You'll find some of this touched upon in the next link, but basically the software entertainment industry is moving away from pre-packaged single-purchase software at $60 a pop and instead moving to on-line micro-purchases where players can invest as much or as little as they choose into a title.

This year's city builders are instead all being released in the social media formats.


MyEmpire and Frontierville I find the most interesting --they're both around a million daily users and they've both only been out a month, with a lot of expansion to come. HelloCity is targetted to the asian market. SocialCity is more SimCity, Treetopia is a tribal village builder with sidequests added that is Avatar influenced. My City Life is also like a SimCity.

You'll find most of them listed here:

On the boardgame front, Roll Through The Ages is one of the Spiel Des Jahres nominees. It's a civ builder through and through, and is a must for any city builder fan.

Cyclades is a bit chaotic and has player vs player combat in the Greek isles. http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/54998/cyclades

Agricola: Farmers in the Moor has really breathed new life into the base game for me, bringing it back to the table frequently. Definitely an expansion worth picking up. http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/43018/agricola-farmers-of-the-moor

Brass http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/28720/brass
Pillars of the Earth: Builders Duel is the household's favorite 2 player of the moment. :-) http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/40831/the-pillars-of-the-earth-builders-duel

Constantinopolis http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/31483/constantinopolis
and Princes of Catan http://blog.catan.com/2010/05/card-game-reform-2010-part-5/
are both new titles to watch for their release.

Comuni http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/37231/comuni
Albion http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/55911/albion
are civ builders combined with kicking each other in the shins at times. May or may not be your groups cup of tea.
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Postby Keith » Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:39 pm

Of those Innovan listed, only My Empire has any chance of remotely interesting me. I am past the days of board games.

The price is $195???!!!!!! :eek: To see for yourself click here. Then click on the My Empire listing on the games list. Then on the AppData.com page look down near the bottom where it says Application History.

It's graphics are rather uninspiring from the images I've seen of it. They aren't on a par with Children of the Nile Online.

You can watch some videos of the My Empire game play on YouTube.

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Postby Azeem » Tue Jun 22, 2010 10:14 pm

$195????? Seriously???? :eek:

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Postby Innovan » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:09 pm

No, MyEmpire is free to play. Just get a facebook account (which is free, so create an second free account just for gaming and keep it separate from any account with your name on it) and go to http://apps.facebook.com/myempiregame

Voila, you are playing the game. For free.

If you're an advertising executive, you can pay $195 for an exclusive marketting report of some sort. That's completely different.

Verdona is a new entry in free facebook games that's city building
http://www.facebook.com/Verdoniagame (Look for the "Go to Application" button to play it)

As is Ubisoft's The Settlers --My City. (Update: I have to say, this one completely sucks. Slow, ponderous, awful. Ubisoft really doesn't understand how action scripts work in Flash.)
(Look for the "Go to Application" button to play it)
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Postby Keith » Sat Jun 26, 2010 8:57 pm

I see, that makes sense.

Well, unfortunately, I want nothing to do with Facebook.

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Postby PantherX » Mon Jun 28, 2010 4:41 pm

Thanks for the info Innovan,

While I use Facebook I have never like the social gaming aspects since to do well, you need to rely on your friends for various ingame items and bonuses. The Social obligation requirements (and associated spam) make me back away from all those games.

BUT, you just hit on something I have not thought about with the separate account just for gaming. That would allow me to send personal IM's to the people playing the specific game to let them know about the second account and not spam my friends with game crapola.

I feel a wave coming to facebook...

/me is /cry because of thread /title....

I really want a new CB game or I may have to go back to the past and replay the older games with different goals.

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Postby Innovan » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:14 am

I'm still figuring out what the industry means by "social gaming".

Most videogames are based around player elimination. But attacking your friends and burning their kingdom to the ground isn't proving very popular. And in an industry where facebook reports how many players you have every day and you're paid based on this, the game companies are trying to change.

So they're trying to come up with non-violent, positive interactions that can happen with your real life friends in games. You help them build things. You have free gifts each day you can give your friends. You visit each others cities. You ask for help. You trade. You complete collections.

This interview is interesting how it's a different take:

It seems like city building games are becoming the "next big thing" on Facebook after pets or farming. What are some of the ways that My Empire stands out from the other city building games on Facebook?
I admit I am a bit biased, but I think My Empire is a more social and engaging city-building game. We explored various ways friends could engage with each other to build their cities. For instance, there are 'co-building' structures where you need up to ten friends to help complete construction. These buildings, similar to courthouses and temples, are important because they provide a lot of happiness points and don’t require any coins.

We also have a large collection of Wonders, like Stonehenge and the Colossus, that require resources sent from your friends in addition to resources you’ve produced yourself. So even if you compete with your friends to be the first to build these Wonders, you can only get them by helping each other out.

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